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| : Stupidly, yes, with carpet bombing. Practically, no, that would be horrible. Could that work? It didn’t end well in Vietnam, which is about a fifth of the land area, and, in 1970, half the current population of Iran. Also, they’ll pack a bigger punch, but I think the USA has way fewer bombers now. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Could that work? It didn’t end well in Vietnam We can't carpet bomb to regime change. But we can probably depopulate critical areas around the coasts while ships transit. It's stupidly expensive, both in materiel and collateral cost. But it's feasible. Whether we have the bomb-production is a separate question to which I don't have the answer. | | |
| ▲ | pjc50 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | > probably depopulate critical areas around the coasts while ships transit. (looks at map) the city of Bandar Abbas, population ~500k? It's already being hit as it contains the Iranian Navy HQ, but actually depopulating it is a much bigger project. |
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| ▲ | meindnoch 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Carpet bombing didn't even break Vietnam. It didn't break WWII Germany either. |
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| ▲ | orwin 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Nor did WW2 England. Look, Churchill had like 24 approval rate after Dunkerque, and the 'british Hitler' had 18%. Bombing London moved those percentages _very_ fast. 'do nothing, win' people have a point most of the time. |
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| ▲ | arkensaw 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Trump casually talks about destroying the energy infrastructure, power plants, desalination plants etc. This is one of the most controversial things that the Russians do in Ukraine - attack the grid when it's cold to try and freeze people to death. To willingly deprive a country of 100,000,000 people of water and power coming into summer would surely be a war-crime. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > This is one of the most controversial things that the Russians do in Ukraine - attack the grid when it's cold to try and freeze people to death But the Russians have been doing it. Iran may have targeted an Israeli power plant. The precedent, unfortunately, is set. | | |
| ▲ | scott_w 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | They have and Ukraine haven’t surrendered (nor do they look like they will any time soon), so I don’t see how it wit k a in Iran. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > and Ukraine haven’t surrendered Different goals. Carpet bombing to deny Iran access to its coast is maneouvre warfare. It’s tactical. Carpet bombing to force Kyiv to capitulate is strategic bombing. It has never worked. |
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| ▲ | pjc50 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Iran already had severe water problems. Attacking the water infrastructure would definitely cause huge civilian casualties. Israel is used to that. Not clear whether America is ready to go into the midterms with an official policy of US-flagged genocide. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Attacking the water infrastructure would definitely cause huge civilian casualties I personally think there is a wide barrier between electrical and water infrastructure. But given water infra has allegedly been hit already, it doesn’t feel like it’s off the table for both sides the way it once was. |
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