| ▲ | avaer 10 hours ago |
| Would be interesting to run this through Malus [1] or literally just Claude Code and get open source Claude Code out of it. I jest, but in a world where these models have been trained on gigatons of open source I don't even see the moral problem. IANAL, don't actually do this. https://malus.sh/ |
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| ▲ | rvnx 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Malus is not a real project btw, it's a parody: “Let's end open source together with this one simple trick” https://pretalx.fosdem.org/fosdem-2026/talk/SUVS7G/feedback/ Malus is translating code into text, and from text back into code. It gives the illusion of clean room implementation that some companies abuse. The irony is that ChatGPT/Claude answers are all actually directly derived from open-source code, so... |
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| ▲ | otikik 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They accept real money though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6godSEVvcmU | |
| ▲ | chillfox 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's not a parody when they accept money and deliver the service. | | | |
| ▲ | LelouBil 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | First time I hear about this, it's interesting to have written all of this out. Now this makes me think of game decompilation projects, which would seem to fall in the same legal area as code that would be generated by something like Malus. Different code, same end result (binary or api). We definitely need to know what the legal limits are and should be | | |
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| ▲ | sumeno 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No real reason to do that, they say Claude Code is written by Claude, which means it has no copyright. Just use the code directly |
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| ▲ | williamcotton 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | What about trade secrets, breach of contract, etc, etc? | | |
| ▲ | jpetso 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Apparently it's possible to download a whole load of books illegally, but still train AI models on them without those getting pulled after you get found out. The same reasoning may apply here :P | | |
| ▲ | bigbuppo 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, but you don't have trillions of dollars of investments riding on your success, so the rules still apply to you. |
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| ▲ | fsmv 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Trade secrets once made public don't have any legal protection and I haven't signed any contract with anthropic | |
| ▲ | dns_snek 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They published the code on their own, none of that applies. |
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| ▲ | NitpickLawyer 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The problem is the oauth and their stance on bypassing that. You'd want to use your subscription, and they probably can detect that and ban users. They hold all the power there. |
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| ▲ | avaer 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You'd be playing cat and mouse like yt-dlp, but there's probably more value to this code than just a temporary way to milk claude subscriptions. | | |
| ▲ | esperent 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If you're using a claude subscription you'd just use claude code. The real value here will be in using other cheap models with the cc harness. | | |
| ▲ | somehnguy 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I have no interest in Claude Code as a harness, only their models. I'm used to OpenCode at this point and don't want to switch to a proprietary harness. | |
| ▲ | jen20 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You can already do that though? [1] [1]: https://docs.ollama.com/integrations/claude-code | |
| ▲ | raincole 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Lol what? There is no value. OpenCode and Pi and more exist. Arguably Claude Code is the worst client on the market. People use Claude Code not because it's some amazing software. It's to access Opus at a discounted rate. |
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| ▲ | stingraycharles 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don’t think that’s a good comparison. There isn’t anything preventing Anthropic from, say, detecting whether the user is using the exact same system prompt and tool definition as Claude Code and call it a day. Will make developing other apps nearly impossible. It’s a dynamic, subscription based service, not a static asset like a video. | | |
| ▲ | falcor84 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > detecting whether the user is using the exact same system prompt and tool definition as Claude Code Why would it be the exact same one? Now that we have the code, it's trivial to have it randomize the prompt a bit on different requests. |
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| ▲ | woleium 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Just use one of the distilled claude clones instead
https://x.com/0xsero/status/2038021723719688266?s=46 | | |
| ▲ | echelon 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | "Approach Sonnet"... So not even close to Opus, then? These are a year behind, if not more. And they're probably clunky to use. |
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| ▲ | pkaeding 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Could you use claude via aws bedrock? | | |
| ▲ | NitpickLawyer 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sure, but that'd be charged at API pricing. I'm talking about subscription mode above. |
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| ▲ | conradfr an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe https://github.com/instructkr/claw-code |
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| ▲ | dahcryn 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I love the irony on seeing the contribution counter at 0 Who'd have thought, the audience who doesn't want to give back to the opensource community, giving 0 contributions... |
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| ▲ | kelnos 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Oh god, I was so close to believing Malus was a real product and not satire. |
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| ▲ | aizk 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This has happened before. It was called anon kode. |
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| ▲ | gosub100 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What are they worried about? Someone taking the company's job? Hehe |
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| ▲ | TIPSIO 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Eh, the value is the unlimited Max plan which they have rightfully banned from third-party use. People simply want Opus without fear of billing nightmare. That’s like 99% of it. |
