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tonymet 14 hours ago

They’ve killed dozens during the shuttle program , or did you forget ? Also a number during Gemini, Mercury and Appollo. Terrible safety record , and 5x worse than Soyuz . Shuttle fatality rate was 1/10. Approaching Russian roulette odds

staplung 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In total, a little over one dozen astronauts died on shuttle flights (14). No astronauts died during Gemini or Mercury. Three died in a test on Apollo 1. The shuttle failure rate was nowhere close to 1/10. In fact, it was 1/67 (2 failures out of 134 flights).

1shooner 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>They’ve killed dozens during the shuttle program

Columbia and Challenger crew totaled 14, who else are you referring to?

tonymet 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh 14 totally acceptable

mikelitoris 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s the American roulette

shrubble 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

*Freedom Roulette

wat10000 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

135 missions, 2 fatal accidents, that’s not 1/10.

tonymet 11 hours ago | parent [-]

It is if you’re dead

kelnos 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That... doesn't make any sense.

tonymet 4 hours ago | parent [-]

If the odds were only 1% , how did 14 people die ?

You’re not including the lives in your risk assessment .

There were 135 events and 14 people died .

If you were asked to join mission 136 would you say yes or no?

Which risk profile fits: 1% fatality or 10%?

wat10000 an hour ago | parent [-]

By that logic, the fatality rate in NYC skyscrapers on 9/11 was something like 1500%, since there were <200 skyscrapers and ~2,700 people died.

It doesn't make any sense. Your numerator and denominator need to use the same units. The rate of fatal accidents was 2/135. The rate of crew fatalities was 14/355. The rate for crew-flight fatalities (separately counting multiple flights by the same person) was 14/852.

If you were evaluating your risk for another flight, the number of crew aboard doesn't affect the risk and it's pretty reasonable to assume that an accident results in either a 0% or 100% fatality rate, so the relevant figure would be the fatal accident rate of 2/135. If your flight follows that profile then that's your probability of dying in an accident.

tonymet an hour ago | parent [-]

You still haven't explained how so many died and why the program ended.

wat10000 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wat