Are people again learning a new set of tools? Just tell the AI what you want, if the AI tool doesn't allow that then tell another Ai tool to make you a translation layer that will convert the natural language to the commands etc. What's the point of learning yet another tool?

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faeyanpiraat 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I cannot decipher what you mean, have you mixed up the tabs, and wanted to post this somewhere else?

The linked site is a pretty good interactive Claude tutorial for beginners.

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sznio 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't understand the purpose of a tutorial for a natural language ai system.

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simonw 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's like saying there's no point in attending a lecture on "how to get the best out of your time at University" because University courses are taught in spoken language so you could just ask the professors.

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rco8786 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Claude Code is a tool that uses natural language ai systems. It itself is not a natural language ai system.

	▲	mrtksn 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The idea that AI can write code like a seasoned software developer but not being able to use its own tooling that can be learned through 11 chapters tutorial doesn't make any sense.

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arbitrary_name 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

sounds like you might benefit from a tutorial!

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mrtksn 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nope, why would anybody type commands to a machine that does natural language processing? Just tell the thing what you want.

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dsQTbR7Y5mRHnZv 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Part of the initial excitement in programming is easy to explain: just the fact that when you tell the computer to do something, it will do it. Unerringly. Forever. Without a complaint.

And that’s interesting in itself.

But blind obedience on its own, while initially fascinating, obviously does not make for a very likeable companion. What makes programming so engaging is that, while you can make the computer do what you want, you have to figure out how."[0]

- [0] https://www.brynmawr.edu/inside/academic-information/departm...

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faeyanpiraat 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, but you gotta learn what is possible.

I wouldn't have the thought to say to the machine to compact its context if I didn't know it has context and it can be compacted, right?

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rzzzt 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why do I need to tell the machine to compact its context? This feels like homework and/or ceremony.

	▲	thejazzman 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Because the machine is a tool and tools use proper and improper usage.

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mrtksn 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Good point, but IMHO the learning material for this should be the basics of LLM.

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recursive 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I haven't used Claude, but the problem seems to be not refusal, but cheerful failure. "Sure, I'll help you with that!" And it produces something wrong in obvious and/or subtle ways.

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cyanydeez 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think somewhere between 2016 and 2026 the market realized that programmers _love_ writing tools for themselves and others, and it went full bore into catering to the Bike Shedding economy, and now AI is accelerating this to an absurd degree.

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mrtksn 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Me too, I love writing tools for myself and end up yak shaving all the time but why there's a tutorial for a machine that understand human language? Just type down your inner monologue and it will do it.

	▲	sidrag22 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		honestly, the biggest reason i deep dove on proper .claude stuff, was because im a cheap ass. I saw someone mention their agents/ that delegates to cheaper models, and figure that was a way I could reign in my own overall usage, and its been true so far. Im sure im one of the very few heavy claude code users that still stubbornly sits on the pro version. It won't be forever, if i land an important contract or job, I'll pretty quickly hop to max or whatever, but for my own usage right now, im getting by. Sure, maybe this stuff isn't crazy relevant 2 years from now, but right now? Giving your agent a clean way to navigate and delegate tasks to keep that context window clean? its 100% vital. edit: hop to max*

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chunpaiyang 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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