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OpenGridWorks: Electricity infrastructure, mapped(opengridworks.com)
172 points by jonbraun 2 days ago | 37 comments
eliaspro 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The map is missing a proper attribution as it is required by OpenStreetMap when using the project's data: https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright/attribution-guide/

Karliss 2 days ago | parent [-]

It is in the bottom right corner when clicking (i) button just like the https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Attribution_Guideline... suggests. The only questionable part I see is that after page reload it flickers for half a second and then gets automatically hidden instead of getting hidden after manual interaction with map. Is there any other point in attribution requirements that it doesn't comply with?

eliaspro 2 days ago | parent [-]

I could've sworn it wasn't there before - but maybe I also just missed it since it is covered by the half-transparent panel (on mobile) and all the other stuff around it distracted me.

bpbart 8 hours ago | parent [-]

This is my mistake, mobile is/was a mess and I was only really looking at desktop before posting. It was buried behind the misplaced bottom bar. Fixed now.

eliaspro 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Thank you!

nullhole 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Related, mapping of OSM infrastructure data:

https://openinframap.org/

greenbit 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Watch out, every little map zoom or slide seems to put another url in your browser history. Not exaggerating here, must have found over 100 of them after just a minute or so of playing with the page

mcbishop 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is awesome. It'd be even more awesome if it was easier to show a power plant's info upon hover / click. ...It's currently too much of a cat-and-mouse game for me.

pietervdvn 2 days ago | parent [-]

Give https://mapcomplete.org/infrastructure a try

mcbishop 2 days ago | parent [-]

Thanks, it's much easier to load info with the option you shared.

bpbart 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry about that. Are you on desktop or mobile, and iOS in particular? Just want to make sure I understand what you're seeing.

curiouscrow55 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is really cool! As a weird coincidence I was actually working on something similar focusing on datacenter load per ISO literally earlier today! https://energy-vis-chi.vercel.app/

curiouscrow55 2 days ago | parent [-]

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reconnecting 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It takes over 150% CPU and counting. I'm not sure that this page is even loaded in full since it overheated the whole system. This is definitely not cool.

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VectorLock 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Man thats a beautiful looking map and shows datacenters and other infrastructure too. Very rad.

boringg 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Satellites on the outside as well kind of neat. Does Africa not have much opendata sharing or little mapped? Its wildly different on the map for sparsity of info.

bpbart 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I also got nervous on spot checking but seems like some countries genuinely do not have grid electricity. IEA had Niger at 983GWh of grid electricity in 2023, less output than one small 120MW gas plant. https://www.iea.org/countries/niger/electricity

Johnny_Bonk 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is extremely cool especially for me since I work in sustainability. Wondering if theres a github attached or open to sharing the data or collaborate?

eliaspro 2 days ago | parent [-]

The map uses OpenStreetMap as data source.

If you're not using the OSM API, there are also full exports of the complete dataset available at https://planet.openstreetmap.org/

zvqcMMV6Zcr 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nice. I had no idea that nearby paper mill includes 200MW of power generation.

topspin 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Another auto spinning globe with no way to turn that off.

At this point I'm convinced all these globe apps are copying the same examples from somewhere and inheriting the same gimmick.

bpbart 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Hah, I intentionally turned it on to record a video but consistent feedback has been that it's bad, so it is default off now!

ssc23 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

None of the layers show up for me

iso1631 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Massively slow

Completely inaccurate, claiming the uk is currently producing 115GW of electricity for example

bpbart 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry for the slowness. The 115GW is installed capacity, not current output. That's the standard way to report it, both units are reported in watts.

NooneAtAll3 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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emil-lp a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

@dang typo in title "infrasctr...". Feel free to delete this comment.

MrVowat 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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T3RMINATED 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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ninininino 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

its like a military targeting map for our geopolitical adversaries

blitzar 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

If all the schools are on google maps it makes it harder to claim "I thought it was a military base ... and even if it was a school the other guys definately did it"

Or we could just stop spending trillions bombing each other and get back to work.

CabSauce 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Or domestic. I'm shocked this information is this available.

pbmonster 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It is simply difficult to hide. You can just go and look at the infrastructure, after all. I bet almost all the information is from OpenStreetmaps, and people just walked around and added all the power lines, substations and powerplants they saw by hand.

And sure, you can bury the cables, or you can try keeping the output of your powerplants secret. But then the infrastructure nerds (or foreign spies) just count coal hopper railway cars per day and analyze cooling tower dimensions.

reustle 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah. I get that adversaries can capture their own high res satellite photos and determine this, but this is just handing it to them on a silver platter.

quickthrowman a day ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s kind of hard to hide electrical transmission line towers and HV->MV electrical substations, let alone power plants or solar fields. Virtually all HV transmission lines and most MV distribution lines are above-ground as they use air as an insulator for economic reasons, same with substations.

A higher amount of distribution lines and substations are underground in dense urban cores and some residential areas, but there’s plenty of above-ground electrical distribution as well.

It’s akin to trying to hide how many skyscrapers exist in the US, they’re highly visible anyways, might as well publish the info so people and companies that live and operate in the US can take advantage of it.

The US government itself publishes more or less the same information: https://www.eia.gov/maps/