There's a lot of good ideas in Spring and there have been some outstanding engineers working on that framework over the past ~25 years. But it has accumulated so much baggage and relies on and perpetuates so many patterns that simply don't make sense anymore... I would love to see what the team would do with a fresh start. I wonder if they have or are considering doing a complete rewrite or starting something totally new for the next generation that will take us through the next 25 years of Java.