| ▲ | inaros 5 hours ago |
| Is it ok now to call the US electorate suckers? "US Republicans consider health care cuts to fund Iran war" - https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-republicans-consider-he... A reminder Israel has both universal healthcare and tuition free university...and voted yesterday to give $255 million to ultra-Orthodox programs and institutions, including yeshivas...that actually refuse to engage in military conscription... https://www.timesofisrael.com/opposition-mks-voted-to-alloca... |
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| ▲ | ceejayoz 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Is it ok now to call the US electorate suckers? I don't think you have to wait for 2026 on that one. |
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| ▲ | algo_trader 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Israel has both universal healthcare and tuition free university This is both wrong and off topic. Israel health care is funded by a 5% additional income tax tier. non working people pay a significant fixed annual fee. University is not free. $5K for the public institutions - which have limited admissions. $10K for many of the spill over private institutions. Now - about those space lasers .... |
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| ▲ | Synaesthesia 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | 5k is almost free. And yes you pay tax to find universities. Makes sense. Paying full tuition in the USA is like paying a tax, only worse, it's a lot more. | | |
| ▲ | etiennebausson 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | As disgusted as I am with Israel's action over the last 80 years, put the blame where it belong. 5k is far from nothing, it is more than enough in any country than subsidize higher education. Which is most of the world at this point. | | |
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| ▲ | salemh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | myth_drannon 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | ohhman11 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There would be no public education nor healthcare in Israel without US money. | | |
| ▲ | myth_drannon 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever, even going back when US had no colored and jews signs in their public spaces. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever… This also applies to US aid. | | |
| ▲ | myth_drannon 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Nope, Israel had it much earlier. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Israel, the nation state, came into being in 1948, with the explicit financial and military aid of the United States to do so. It has had American support since within hours of its founding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel#State_of_... "At the end of 1948, 53% of Israel's Jewish population was insured, about 80% of them by Clalit, with a few small health funds insuring the remainder. In the following years, Israel's healthcare system was expanded, and within a decade, about 90% were insured." Universal healthcare became a thing in 1995, it seems. | | |
| ▲ | tkah 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | To be fair here, what people often overlook by using Israel's current government as a reference point is that during the Kibbutz era Israel was decidedly left-wing. So I wouldn't necessarily attribute the presence of 90% or later 100% health care to US money. |
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| ▲ | inaros 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ah yes...the criticizing Israel is antisemitic argument... "I stand behind the Israeli soldiers; whether there are children or women, it doesn't matter to me if there is damage. There are no innocent civilians in Jenin" - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWWUmuFDgqP/ | | |
| ▲ | myth_drannon 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | constantius 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You're doing it again, conflating antisemitism and criticism of Israel, I flagged your comments. | |
| ▲ | cherry_tree 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Boiling legitimate criticism of the USA funding of Israel to “of course the Jews stole it” is intellectually dishonest. | | |
| ▲ | myth_drannon 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It would have been a valid criticism if it mentioned US aid to Ukraine (which is far larger), or aid to Egypt or the aid by maintaining military bases in South Korea, Japan, Europe. But nothing of that was mentioned, only the Jewish state. Hence it is a good ol' antisemitism. | | |
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