> Theft from the outside world, however, is often taken lightly - especially when it comes to graphics.

One should not forget where the demoscene is coming from: crackers. The whole point of "intros" was to show off the skills of whoever cracked a piece of software. So obviously, the views demoscene held on intellectual property are not mainstream, if we can say it like that.

The shift to a more creative and law abiding art scene, led by adults and not rebellious teenagers is more recent development.

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embedding-shape 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think very initially it was indeed so, crackers were the ones doing the intros. But very quickly the efforts got split, most of the time, the person doing the intro was a different person, the person doing the music was another person and finally another person was the one doing the actual crack. I don't think it took very long for this split to be the norm, even though very early I'm sure there was individuals doing all three pieces alone.

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ebiester 2 days ago | parent [-]

They were different people, but they were in the same group and knew exactly what it was being used for.

	▲	embedding-shape 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, of course, I'm wasn't trying to claim the music/graphics was stolen by the cracker, or vice-versa, just that "show off the skills of whoever cracked a piece of software" isn't really accurately representing how the team's composition was, since they were different people.

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Jare 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't know about "recent"... demos for their own sake had clearly splintered off of the cracking scene by 1991, 35 years ago.

	▲	segmondy a day ago \| parent [-]
		exactly, I got into the scene in the mid 90s and none of us was into cracking at all. I mean, if you have the skills to code a demo you could probably crack most software, but at that point it was about taking a hardware and making it do what most thought wasn't possible.

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account42 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And what exactly do you think "mainstream" opinion on intellectual is? To me it seams most people are fine with ignoring it unless they are the one profiting.