> we depend on the platform more than the individual apps

The only way you actually depend on the platform is if you do Mac OS / iOS development.

However, I happen to work on a project that requires both Windows and Linux, so I get reminders every day of why I should stay on Mac OS as desktop.

Caveat 1: no, I'm not upgrading to Tahoe or iOS 26.

Caveat 2: I wouldn't dream of running a server on anything but Linux. Desktops with a GUI though...

The problem that fucks us over is that Mac OS only has to be better than the competition.

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agarmash 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

With all the valid reasons not to upgrade to iOS 26, here's one strongly suggesting doing so:

https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/dar...

	▲	nottorp 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		That only reinforces Apple being assholes. They are perfectly capable of delivering security updates to ios 18, they just choose to not do that for phones that can run 26. By the way does that mean you can root a phone that's on iOS 18.6? :)

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cpt_sobel 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> The problem that fucks us over is that Mac OS only has to be better than the competition.

I'm with you here, but I'm having a _much_ better time on my Linux machines (KDE and Cinnamon Mint) than on my (unbelievably-powerful-but-for-what) M4 Max MBP. It's so much cleaner, even without having upgraded to Tahoe, and imagine that I don't even like tinkering that much, it just works.

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nottorp 2 days ago | parent [-]

I was using KDE when I switched to Mac OS from Linux as my main desktop (2013 ish).

Must admit I've only looked at the default desktop in Ubuntu in the past years, and that's ... disappointing.

Maybe I should look at how KDE is these days, but it's a second class citizen in most major distros isn't it? Except in this Mint i've never tried.

I also have this fetish for cool and quiet. Can I run KDE on a box that idles at 10 W and never turns the fan audibly on?

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cpt_sobel 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Except in this Mint i've never tried

Well, Cinammon is the windows manager for Mint, it's the barebones experience that's the closest to Windows (?) style, it's mostly what you see is what you get, but still very customizable.

KDE used to be extremely buggy 5-6 years ago and since testing it on my Steam Deck, from my experience, this is no longer the case. It's a bit more feature-rich and flashier than Cinnamon.

> Can I run KDE on a box that idles at 10 W and never turns the fan audibly on?

No laptop I'm aware of will do this, no idea about ARM adoption.

Personally I'm glad to have a windows manager that doesn't force dumb decisions down my throat. On MacOS I have to wait for half a second for the focus to land on the next window when I switch desktops, the only workaround exists as a minor feature recently introduced to BetterSwitchTool called instant desktop switching or something. And it's to be mentioned ofcourse that for all similar fixes you _must_ give full screen recording and accessibility permissions to 3rd party software. And don't get me started on the stupid windows management (maximize != full-screen, minimized windows not recoverable with keyboard only etc)

	▲	nottorp 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		> No laptop I'm aware of will do this, no idea about ARM adoption. Oh the 10 W is my mac mini. The macbook pro idles at 5 W, display included :) > you _must_ give full screen recording and accessibility permissions to 3rd party software Well what do you expect? If Linux/KDE had a permissions system you'd have to grant it too. > maximize != full-screen Um. Yes. They should be different. They've been different ever since we had windows on screen in any system that I'm aware of. Not that I'm a major fan of window management on Mac OS, I just got used to it.