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danielheath 6 hours ago

Maybe check your network isn't sending web traffic you're not aware of?

I'm running firefox and seeing the normal amount.

jychang 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Most people are on a CGNAT these days, drowning in captchas is the new normal. You’re at the mercy of one of your neighbors not hosting a botnet from their home computer.

perching_aix 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For better or for worse, CF's fingerprinting and traffic filtering is a lot more in-depth than just IP trend analysis. Kind of by necessity, exactly because of what you mention. So I'd think that's not as big a worry per se.

lxgr 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yet here I am drowning in captchas every once in a while, so it's quite a big worry for me.

Maybe I just have to disable all ad blockers and Safari tracking prevention? Or I guess I could send a link to a scan of my photo ID in a custom request header like X-Please-Cloudflare-May-I-Use-Your-Open-Web?

perching_aix 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> Yet here I am drowning in captchas every once in a while, so it's quite a big worry for me.

I think I was sufficiently clear that I was specifically talking about CGNAT-caused IP address tainting being an unreasonably emphasized worry, not the worry about their detections overall misfiring. Though I certainly don't hear much about people having issues with it (but then anecdotes are anecdotal).

> Or I guess I could send a link to a scan of my photo ID in a custom request header like X-Please-Cloudflare-May-I-Use-Your-Open-Web?

Sounds good, have you tried?

Not sure what's the point of these comically asinine rhetoricals.

tokioyoyo 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not even remotely true, I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. The only time I get captcha'ed is when I sometimes VPN around, or do some custom browser stuff and etc. I'll even say I get captcha'ed less now than maybe 5 years ago.

cogman10 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Every so often, usually after a firefox update, CF will get into a "I'm convinced your a bot" mode with me. I can get out of it by solving 20 CAPTCHAs.

hansvm 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It's probably just a higher rate of autonomous vehicles needing stop signs and buses identified at that moment, and cognitive bias causes you to only remember when that happens when you recently performed an update. /s

gruez 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>It's probably just a higher rate of autonomous vehicles needing stop signs and buses identified at that moment

I can't tell whether you're serious but in case you are, this theory immediately falls apart when you realize waymo operates at night but there aren't any night photos.

hansvm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Thanks for the comment. Lack of seriousness is now appropriately indicated.

cogman10 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My assumption is that CF has something like a SVM that it's feeding a bunch of datapoints into for bot detection. Go over some threshold and you end up in the CAPTCHA jail.

I'm certain the User-Agent is part of it. I know that for certain because a very reliable way I can trigger the CF stuff is this plugin with the wrong browser selected [1].

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/uaswitcher/

g-b-r 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe you allow tracking and cookies?

Eji1700 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't, and I rarely have issues with firefox. Private + blockers + VPN causes, expected, issues but otherwise i'm usually fine?