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rcvassallo83 5 hours ago

The thing about the legal system is there's no incentive to investigate to find the truth.

The incentive is to prosecte and prove the charges.

Speaking from the experience of being falsely accused after calling 911 to stop a drunk woman from driving.

The narrative they "investigated" was so obviously false, bodycam evidence directly contradicted multiple key facts. Officials are interested only seeking to prove the case. Thankfully the jury came to the right verdict.

pylua 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

There is an incentive . It’s called fraud by negligence. I’m hoping she sues everyone here.

That’s seems to be in the realm of poissibility here if I am understanding things correctly (imo)

retrochameleon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There needs to be consequences for shitty, procedure-ignoring police work. Period.

Minimum 1 year of jail time for grossly wrongful arrests that could be avoided with standard procedure or investigation tactics that were not applied.

helterskelter 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

I agree with this sentiment but when you start punishing this sort of thing you create more incentive to cover it up. It's a tricky problem and I'm not sure there's a perfect solution.

What we really need is a change in police culture.

retrochameleon 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

Then the system should be redesigned such that transparency is a priority and cover ups are not feasible. And when cover ups eventually get found out, the punishments even more severe.

fc417fc802 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The thing about the legal system is there's no incentive to investigate to find the truth.

The truth is much more complicated and involves politics. For example Seattle (and possibly other cities?) enacted a law that involves paying damages for being wrong in the event of bringing certain types of charges. But that has resulted in some widely publicized examples where the prosecutor erred by being overly cautious.

FireBeyond an hour ago | parent [-]

And then you have Florida who will bill you about $100 a day for finding yourself in a Florida jail, regardless of whether charges were dismissed, you were found not guilty or any such thing.

And to nobody’s surprise, failure to pay this bill is in itself a Class B felony…

fc417fc802 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That sounds like a recipe for domestic terrorism - the systemic disenfranchisement of people who have done nothing wrong for no apparent reason other than sheer greed. How long has this been in effect there?

autotune an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That sounds absolutely terrifying.

FireBeyond an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There’s a judge down in Texas, Dallas area I believe, who is in social media a lot because he will excoriate prosecutors who bring bs in to his court room. He’s not soft on crime but hard on rights and process. If a defendant did the wrong thing, he will have the appropriate amount of sympathy, down to zero. At times he will tell them, we all know you got lucky here, do better. But he won’t let prosecutors slate by on garbage charges or statements or investigations by police. Which leads to my primary point at least for this discussion in particular:

To me the scariest part of this as a process is how many times (I’d casually estimate at least 75%) it is blindingly obvious that the prosecutor has not read the statement of charges or officer statements until everyone is in front of the judge. I get on one hand this judge seems to often be handling probable cause hearings but so many of these should never have resulted in any paperwork being turned in to the prosecution, let alone anyone having to show up in court.

hnuser123456 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I would absolutely never call the police on a woman. Simply walk far away and let her be someone else's problem.

loloquwowndueo 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

Unless it’s a Karen chasing you and yelling and threatening to call the police on you for some asinine reason?