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kelipso 2 days ago

> we would end up with something much worse.

Whenever I see this, I recognize it as obvious scaremongering.

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simianwords 2 days ago | parent [-]

When I saw "defund the policy" I recognised it as virtue signalling.

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bdangubic 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Same people that scoff at “Defund the Police” rejoice “Defund the Dept of Education” (and vice versa)

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simianwords 2 days ago | parent [-]

Question: do you agree police must be defunded?

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bdangubic 2 days ago | parent [-]

I agree that in both cases there is an issue that needs to be solved (see NYPD budget as example) so don’t take “defund” at face value but more like “radical changes are needed”

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simianwords 2 days ago | parent [-]

The scoffing of "defund the policy" was specifically at the face value interpretation.

	▲	bdangubic 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		if you want to tear something apart to rebuild peacefully this is the way. their salaries are paid by public money so defund, get everyone out and rebuild. not unlike dept of education which may also need a similar treatment to rebuild

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southerntofu 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Most of humanity has lived without police for most of its existence. It's not an inherent part of life. And in many places, the police is a very recent (few centuries old) invention with ties to oppressive structures such as slavery and colonialism.

Whether abolishing the police, or defunding the police (to deescalate the militarization), both are proposals formulated by serious academics and politicians, whether you agree or not. It's not virtue signalling. If anything, "defund the police" is still very badly regarded outside very small circles and there's no credit to be gained by holding such positions.