| ▲ | __natty__ 2 days ago |
| I wonder what the alternative for Europe might be? A new project to launch, or is there an existing solution? Siren? Argon? In any case, it could be a great opportunity for Europe to create new jobs whilst increasing its sovereignty. |
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| ▲ | tsimionescu 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Palantir's technology, as its own name suggests, is inherently dangerous, regardless of who controls it. The right alternative is to simply not build capabilities similar to Palantir in the EU - ideally, to legally forbid building them at all. This type of aggregated data flow simply gives too much control to whoever has access to it, and thus greatly harms democracy. |
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| ▲ | simianwords 2 days ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | danny_codes a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Such a sad worldview. Unfortunately thinking like that is self-fulfilling. By building weapons you encourage everyone else to build weapons, and everyone is poorer in the end. Some silly aspect of human nature I guess. I notice it's worse in men on average. | | |
| ▲ | simianwords a day ago | parent [-] | | What's your suggested alternative? This is exactly kind of shallow virtue signalling I was pointing at. While you make dismissive remarks like this, your government or USA does the dirty work required to keep stability. |
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| ▲ | text0404 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That's a false choice. By investing in weapons instead of diplomacy, we've created this world of tit-for-tat violence. We can dismantle it too, it's not necessary to continue escalating until we exterminate our species. | | |
| ▲ | simianwords 2 days ago | parent [-] | | "We've" wdym? You don't get to decide the rules. Your adversary is not signing a legally binding contract. | | |
| ▲ | text0404 2 days ago | parent [-] | | "We" as a species with common interests like "not eradicating ourselves through violence." | | |
| ▲ | simianwords 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I agree with you, but your adversary may not think in a sufficiently developed way. Which is why we had such destructive wars in the past.. | | |
| ▲ | text0404 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Maybe we should leverage all of this supposedly world-changing AI to move on from primitive wars instead of using it to build more weapons. At a certain point, our species will be faced with a choice between maintaining the status quo (climate destruction, mass casualties through violent conflicts, food/water shortages, extinction-level events, etc) or working together to forge a sustainable path forward for the benefit of the species. An argument that this current world order is just how things are and there's nothing to be done but escalate is just a vote for the former. | | |
| ▲ | simianwords 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I definitely don't think that the current world order is just how things are. That does not mean you should act now in terms of how the world order _would be in the future_. |
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| ▲ | XajniN a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | You are not aware of the interests of your enemies. | | |
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| ▲ | cindyllm 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | Xelbair 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why? why would we need to fund and make Europen Alternative to Surveilance (tm) when we could just you know - not have it at all? |
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| ▲ | possiblelion 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| SensusQ from Estonia does pretty much this, but is sovereign and data is held by the end-users, not sent to the US (or anywhere else) www.sensusq.com |
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| ▲ | wolvoleo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Even if it's nothing that would be a big win. |
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| ▲ | Bombthecat 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| d.AP, itemis, datawalk, helsing. There are a few alternatives, depending what you want. |
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| ▲ | aitchnyu 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Did Helsing get its name from the fictional vampire hunter family? | | |
| ▲ | rvz 2 days ago | parent [-] | | All of them are just as bad a Palantir. | | |
| ▲ | Bombthecat 2 days ago | parent [-] | | No that's not true, some try to do it by the book ( ai act, gdpr, and follow German law etc) but they won't have any chance on the market, because those who ignore any law will provide more information / control etc for police, state etc etc |
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