| ▲ | bediger4000 13 hours ago |
| Trump started the Iran war, apparently on a whim. There's no 4D chess going on here. |
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| ▲ | mhh__ 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Surely started because of Israel. Maybe there was more back and forth but it really seems like the clique around trump are specifically in Bibi's pocket |
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| ▲ | iAMkenough 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > are specifically in Bibi's pocket Being in his pocket means they owe him something. They don't. They make their own decisions, meant to be representative of the constiutents that did and did not vote for them. If they go against their consitutents wishes, that was their own decision to make. They are to blame. | |
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| ▲ | ajross 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| High oil prices hurt the US economy much more than China anyway. We're vastly more dependent on shipping and transport and even more vastly less elastic with our fuel demand. The only US interests who would want this are domestic oil producers, who are a small fraction even of the Republican funding base. |
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| ▲ | vscode-rest 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The folks controlling Trump are far more adept plotters and schemers than you give them credit for. |
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| ▲ | wat10000 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Can you point to any good plots or schemes they’ve pulled off in the past? We’re starting our sixth year with this guy at the helm and so far it’s nothing but a cavalcade of stupid. | | | |
| ▲ | iAMkenough 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Trump is not controlled. He wanted this. | | |
| ▲ | kccqzy 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | He simply wanted a quick strike, not a war. He thought Iran would capitulate and not take any actions after the strike. His thinking did not even change. Just read this 2021 article about preventing Trump from starting a war with Iran: https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington... Trump is predictable. What he thought in 2021 was similar to what he thought in February 2026. > Trump did not want a war, the chairman believed, but he kept pushing for a missile strike in response to various provocations against U.S. interests in the region. Milley, by statute the senior military adviser to the President, was worried that Trump might set in motion a full-scale conflict that was not justified. Trump had a circle of Iran hawks around him and was close with the Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, who was also urging the Administration to act against Iran after it was clear that Trump had lost the election. “If you do this, you’re gonna have a fucking war,” Milley would say. | | |
| ▲ | iAMbarbie 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Whoever convinced him that a strike against 170+ school children wouldn't start a war should be fired and tried for war crimes. Not holding my breath. |
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| ▲ | atoav 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [citation needed] |
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| ▲ | roenxi 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It is notable that the worlds major available oil reserves are now[0] in Venezuela, Canada, the US and Russia. Democracies are capable of playing 4D chess even if none of the people involved are up to the challenge. There are a lot of power centres that could stop Trump if they saw it as a problem for their interests; like Congress, some people in the administration or even a few people in CENTCOM (although they'd be more delaying the inevitable). That being said, unleashing this blow on Asia is insanely risky whether it is intentional or no. The Trump administration has a well-earned reputation for not being direct in their warmaking and the Asian's might decide not to go down without a fight. And the US is likely to get nothing but ill-will from the continent for the next generation. And I doubt Trump will politically survive the blows the US economy will take in the process of shredding the global oil market. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oi... |
