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| ▲ | Onavo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's not just the US, story through the grapevine is that Google is under a lot of pressure Asian governments over "online scams". (Allegedly the main actor behind this push is Singapore) | |
| ▲ | hparadiz 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Don't you know? If one elderly person gets scammed we all deserve to be infantilized. | | |
| ▲ | RedComet 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Wouldn't it be something if, given all the surveillance already in place, law enforcement punished the scammers instead of the innocent? | | |
| ▲ | Ms-J an hour ago | parent [-] | | But then how would they police what you install? Maybe you have the criminal idea of installing an adblocker, for example. That is not allowed since corporations need to make money. The government and ad networks need to track you for your benefit. Ads are needed before listening to each minute of a song. You must submit to crpyto miners running in the background from the ads, increasing your electricity bill and pollution. Only USA sanctioned and approved ads are allowed, also. We wouldn't want you seeing an ad from a competing entity, right? If you install an ablocker, you are a terrorist and broke 324582 American laws. |
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| ▲ | benoau 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | (nevermind that the scams are extraordinarily likely to come through Meta, Google, Apple, Amazon) | | |
| ▲ | fluidcruft 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | The scams are likely to some from outside Play. In the US, these scams don't run because iPhone is the dominant platform and side loading in iOS is not possible. In the rest of world they are widespread. | | |
| ▲ | soraminazuki 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "Likely"? Do you mean that based on actual data, or are you using it as a weasel word so you can present whatever convenient "facts" that benefit Google as truth? I’m betting on the latter. No Kitboga video mentions custom Android apps. What actually appears on almost all videos are online ads/spam or fake celebrity accounts messaging random people on Facebook. It's funny how you aggressively push solutions that ignore the most common scam vectors investigators encounter. Could it be a coincidence that your proposal conveniently places every aspect of people’s lives at the mercy of big businesses? Or that the scam vector you downplay, ads and social media, just happens to be cash cows for some of the richest companies in history? We already have plenty of paid lobbyists cheering the transfer of wealth from the poorest to the richest. There's no need to do that dirty work for free. Weaponizing the elderly being scammed of their life savings while protecting those that benefit from it is beyond messed up. | |
| ▲ | benoau 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Outside Play, on YouTube or via Google Ads for many of them. Likewise for Meta ads. | | |
| ▲ | fluidcruft 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | The scams that are happening in the rest of world are calls posing as bank support about urgent security issues and telling people to install apps to protect their accounts. | | |
| ▲ | happymellon 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | All the scams are for apps that are already in the Play and App store. | | |
| ▲ | goku12 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Absolutely! Never had one problem with apps on FDroid. Not even when tbe Simple Mobile Tools suite was sold to a shady company without a heads up to its users. And that safety isn't an accident. |
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| ▲ | direwolf20 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | In the USA they tell you to install AnyDesk and remote access your computer. Or they just ask for your password. Or forge a check. |
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| ▲ | LocalH 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sideloading is very possible on iOS and there's an entire subculture surrounding it. | | |
| ▲ | fluidcruft 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not widespread enough to be a viable grift target. | | |
| ▲ | goku12 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | And how much grift happens through Android side loading? (BTW, I hate that weasel word used to vilify a perfectly reasonable activity.) Practically all grift on Android happens through apps on the Play Store. People who know how to 'side load' are also usually careful and smart enough to think about what they're putting in. That's not a useful target for grifts either. As somebody put it, Google goes after others without cleaning their own house first. It's just abuse of power at this point. | |
| ▲ | fsflover 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Are Debian repos a viable grift target? |
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| ▲ | packetlost 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ok, but the vast majority of people do need their hand held because they're incompetent, naive, or both. IMO this is pro consumer move | | |
| ▲ | schubidubiduba 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It might be pro consumer if the power were lying in some kind of democratically justified organization, which then decides which apps are allowed and which are not. This way, consumers are helpless victims of the same megacorporation, which will use its near-absolute power over the mobile ecosystem (shared with one other megacorporation) to profit on the back of consumers. | |
| ▲ | AlBugdy 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | We shouldn't let naive or mentally disabled people to dictate how computing should work. That's the same logic behind the age verification shit that's happening worldwide. If you (not you specifically) are unsure of your abilities to use computers, let a friend or a family member buy a dumbed down device for you or install parental controls or something. Or maybe have clicking the build number 7 times reveal "toddler mode" where you can lock your device down irreversibly as much as you want. | |
| ▲ | xigoi 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If Google actually wanted to protect people from malware, they would not approve Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, … | |
| ▲ | goku12 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is as pro-consumer as cutting off one's nose to cure a cold. Let me say this for the... I don't know how many times, that security, child protection, scam prevention, terrorism, miniaturization, sophistication, etc are all lies peddled by trillion-dollar megacorps to justify their cash grab, and by despotic governments to justify their consolidation of power over citizens. Nobody wants to know why all those problems still occur despite these unpopular measures. Meanwhile, NONE of those draconian restrictions on users' freedom and privacy are technically necessary to achieve any of those ideals. It's a lie that they convince the people by repeating incessantly. This is 2026, for God's sake! How long has this grift been playing out? At least two decades? What will it take people, much less the tech savvy ones, to learn that all these are designs of greedy and power lusting minds? | |
| ▲ | bigstrat2003 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | No. Society should not be holding the hands of adults. It's unnecessary and it's insulting. |
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| ▲ | otabdeveloper4 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's not about malware.
It's about Google complying with USA's geopolitical adventures. Basically, Google needs an answer when men in suits ask them why they have technology that enables users to install sanctioned Iranian banking apps. | |
| ▲ | jojobas 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Somehow if you replace Google with Apple in the same sentence you'll get cursed to hell. Go figure. | | |
| ▲ | goku12 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Says who? The fanbois? What makes you think that ordinary people are any happier with Apple's abuses than Google's? This is not a worthwhile justification for what either one of them does. |
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