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QuiDortDine 5 hours ago

And how do you draw the line between feeling progress and actually making progress?

moduspol 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Counter-point: I often raise the same question of people with human therapists. I do not get strong responses.

layer8 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The same way you distinguish between feeling like having a problem and actually having a problem.

Forgeties79 5 hours ago | parent [-]

This is needlessly flippant and not really the same thing. Determining progress in a therapy setting is usually a collaborative effort between the therapist and the client. An LLM is not a reliable agent to make that determination.

logifail an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Determining progress in a therapy setting is usually a collaborative effort between the therapist and the client. An LLM is not a reliable agent to make that determination

Can anyone describe how to determine how a (professional, human) therapist is "a reliable agent" to make such a determination?

Forgeties79 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

If you want to call into question the entire field of behavioral health and the training that is involved then that is fine, but if that’s how you feel then this entire discussion is really about something different and I can’t bridge the gap here.

layer8 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I didn’t claim that an LLM is that, and I fully agree that it is not. I’m saying that one is inherently one’s own judge of whether one has a problem. You go to a therapist when you feel you have a problem that warrants it. You stop going when you feel you don’t have it anymore. And OP is very likely assessing their progress in the same way. I wasn’t being flippant if the parent was asking a genuine question.

Forgeties79 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

> I’m saying that one is inherently one’s own judge of whether one has a problem. You go to a therapist when you feel you have a problem that warrants it

That is for certain types of therapy/clinical care. It is not always - and often isn’t - the case. Plenty of diagnoses and care protocols are not a matter of opinion or based on “you feeling there’s an issue” or deciding on your own there is no longer an issue.