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declan_roberts a day ago

That's a great system. Like so many things, success comes down to implementation.

In California, for example, PG&E will charge you the maximum peak demand prices while simultaneously paying other states to take electricity during the solar duck curve.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=56880

bullfightonmars a day ago | parent | next [-]

Are you saying that they don’t let rate payers take advantage of low rates to advantage load shift?

That seems counterproductive and exploitative.

gcheong a day ago | parent | next [-]

I have an EV and am on a Time of Use rate plane here in SF. My lowest rates are between 12am and 3pm every day. I charge the car and run everything I can in terms of major appliance use between these hours (dishwasher scheduled to start at midnight or manually run early in the day, washer/dryer loads run in the morning). I am home during the day which makes this easier to do though. Another solution of course would be to bank your solar generation or low rate electricity into a set of batteries that you could draw from during peak times.

amluto 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

PG&E doesn’t even give all its time-of-use ratepayers the same peak hours. The rates are nonsensical.

pseudohadamard 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Australia has that in an even more extreme form, although it's more an emu curve there. In fact the CA one isn't really a duck any more either is it?