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2001zhaozhao 7 hours ago

Yeah the only way to run 4 sticks of DDR5 decently is with Intel. It's a bit of a shame that you can't cram enough RAM to run big models.

The most I could get running on 10GB VRAM + 96GB RAM was a REAP'd + quantized version of MiniMax-M2.5

mort96 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Got it running with 4800MT/s and literally 30 minute boot times in an AM5 machine. The 30 minute boot time could be worked around by enabling the (off-by-default) memory context restore option in BIOS, but it really made me think something was broken and it wasn't until I found other people talking about 30 minute boot times that I stopped debugging and just let it sit for an eternity.

It's so bad. I don't get why they sell AM5 motherboards with 4 RAM slots.

At least that system has been running well for like two years. But had I known that the situation is so much more dire than with DDR4, I would've just gotten the same amount of RAM in two sticks rather than four.

WD-42 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m running 128gb on a 9550x now with 4x32gb sticks and it’s terrible. It’s unstsable, post time is about 2 minutes (not exaggerating)and I’m stuck at a lower speed. I’m considering just taking 2 of the sticks out and working with 64gb and increasing my swap partition. The nvme drive is fast at least.

This is my first time off intel and I have to say I don’t understand the hype.

magicalhippo an hour ago | parent [-]

> It’s unstsable, post time is about 2 minutes (not exaggerating)

The long POST times must mean it's retraining the memory each time, which is not normal. Just in case you haven'ttried it yet, I'd start by reseating them, I've had weird issues with marginally seated RAM before.

Also you definitely have to go much slower with 4 sticks compared to two, so lower speed as much as you can. If that doesn't help, I'd verify them in pairs.

If they work in pairs but not in quad at the slowest speed, something is surely wrong.

Once you get them working in quad, you can start bumping up the speed, might need voltage boost as well.

HauntingPin 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had the same issue with Intel. It's not guaranteed there either.

jodleif 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Threadripper is a good alternative. No point having a lot of dual channel ram for LLMs, too slow