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coldtea 12 hours ago

It's not like they know much about Venezuela either. They'd probably as lost to the history regarding the history of UK or Germany, or for that matter, the US itself.

What they know is they have power, and they can bomb others with impunity. Even if it goes bad, it's not their asses that will have a problem. They'll go on having nice corporate positions waiting for them.

ndsipa_pomu 12 hours ago | parent [-]

I think this going to go very badly for the US. Best scenario is that Trump realises or is told that it will be immensely expensive and unpopular and will perform a humiliating cease fire. I can see Trump not wanting to do that and instead the blockade of the strait will continue with disastrous effect on the world economy.

tocs3 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I could also see other regions(China, the EU) making deals with Iran and the US stuck with no good out.

AnimalMuppet 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We're not going to get the best case scenario. We're going to get close to the worst. For political reasons, Trump has to appear to win, and Iran has to appear to not let Trump win. This makes it impossible to find a halting condition, and so the war continues until one regime or the other falls. (The least dramatic way that could happen is for Congress to pass a War Powers resolution, which effectively ends Trump's ability to use the military for this. But that won't happen until at least after the midterms, if then. So we're stuck in this for a while because of the logic of both countries' internal politics.)

ndsipa_pomu 3 hours ago | parent [-]

One out would be for Trump to lie about having met all the objectives (not that anyone seems to know what the objectives are) and then stop the aggression. His lies would likely be accepted by the U.S. media and MAGA supporters and meanwhile the rest of the world would recognise that Iran made a mockery of the USA.