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amarant 4 hours ago

I must say that all this fuzz about the corners actually reflects rather well on macos.

If the biggest flaw of a OS is the border radius of its windows, you've got yourself a pretty decent OS!

It's not gonna make me leave my darling Linux, ofc, but i think this whole debacle can only be interpreted as praise.

On second thought, it might also be considered a mediation on people's tendency to bike-shed.

intrasight 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I disagree as it shows a fundamental flaw in terms of separation of concerns that's probably manifest throughout the operating system.

Or to stay it another way, if we see shit like this then we know the whole thing is a hack.

amarant 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hmm, that's a good point actually! Hadn't considered that!

justonceokay an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s funny to call Mac OS a hack compared to windows. Now windows is trying to be backward compatible with DOS and that’s… something. But when we read blog posts explaining why things are how they are in windows i always get the heebie jeebies.

intrasight an hour ago | parent [-]

> compared to Windows

I never said that

justonceokay an hour ago | parent [-]

Well sure we can compare it to niche OS like Linux or vaporware. But without comparison then we probably aren’t taking into account the real life complexity of a desktop OS.

As a related anecdote, my friend said my car was ugly. I asked him what cars he thought looked good. He said “I don’t like cars”. As a result I realized his opinion was worthless

bigyabai an hour ago | parent [-]

You can compare it to prior versions of macOS, if you insist on assessing it from a relativistic standpoint. Apple didn't have this issue 10 years ago.

brailsafe 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Eh, it might be or it might not, why is that a valid indication that everything else is wack? There certainly are other things that are bad, maybe many, evidently, but I don't think the corner problem is a fair indicator of that exactly. Numerous things can be discretely bad and poorly directed without there being some ebola virus of bad throughout

NwtnsMthd 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not the biggest flaw, there are plenty others, but it does seem to be universally disliked.

For example, there is not much you could do to Finder to make it worse.

ablob 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> If the biggest flaw of a OS is the border radius of its windows, you've got yourself a pretty decent OS!

This argument would also make Windows 11 a pretty decent OS by extension via "If the biggest flaw of a OS is the position of the start menu you've got yourself a pretty decent OS".

In general I could use any minor nuisance as a proof of decency - or inject some to form this argument on purpose as a manufacturer.

People don't like if their environment changes in minor unsolicited ways. There's always gonna be fuzz about these things and that means that the fuzz itself can't be used to make any strong argument whatsoever.

akdev1l 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I think people are more complaining about windows crashing on updates or Microsoft putting ads everywhere or forcing one drive

That’s way more than just the “position of the start menu”

amelius 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The biggest flaw is that the system is opinionated, so you cannot change anything you dislike.

layer8 an hour ago | parent [-]

It’s not only that it’s opinionated, it’s that it’s idiosyncratically opinionated. It would be different if it had a boring, middle-of-the-road opinion.

kibwen an hour ago | parent [-]

It's not that it's idiosyncratically opinionated, it's that its idiosyncratic opinion is insane, user-hostile, and flies in the face of decades of experience crafting user interfaces.

amelius 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

Different for the sake of being different.

SunshineTheCat 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was thinking the same thing. I actually agree with most of the complaints people have made about the corners, but it seems so small compared with literally every interaction I have with Windows.

As someone who works on Windows, Mac, and Linux; Windows stands alone in my opinion as the "stepping on legos with no socks on" of operating systems.

bloomca 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is just the most obvious, macOS is a death by thousands cuts

freetime2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah "notorious inconsistency issues in windows corners" almost feels like an oxymoron to me. Perhaps it is notorious among graphic designers, but I'm sure the vast majority of MacOS users will never notice or care.

mikey_p 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

On the other hand the fact that it sometimes makes it hard to resize windows means that it breaks something that Apple operating systems have been capable of doing without issue for nearly 45 years.

thesuitonym 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not even close to the biggest flaw, it's just the most obvious one.

chimeracoder 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> If the biggest flaw of a OS is the border radius of its windows, you've got yourself a pretty decent OS!

There are loads of other flaws with the OS. It just so happens that people care a lot about the design of Apple's products, so people talk about these details.

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gcapu 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think you miss the point. How would you feel if you had a Ferrari with a noticeable scratch? Yes, it is great to have such a nice car, but it'd be a pity. So much much effort was put into the whole thing and this little detail is what lingers on your mind.

iLoveOncall 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is not the biggest flaw, this is just the most recent flaw.

MacOS has been shit for as long as I've used it (8 years) and probably for much longer than that. There are many lists available of MacOS problems (https://old.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/12rw1sn/a_long_list_... for example), it's just that there's not much point making a new article about the Finder that's been shit, and unchanged, for a decade.

zarmin 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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