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Tzk a day ago

We’re at 2.30€ in Germany (per liter!) right now. So $5.40 per gallon doesn’t sound too bad to me.

I’m aware that the diesel price in the us always has been quite low in contrast to Europe, but still I don’t see the issue.

Betelbuddy a day ago | parent | next [-]

Its about the structure of input costs into the US economy.

Same way restaurant employees in Germany have a salary, but 80% of US restaurants would close immediately, if their "associates" would not have to survive on tips...

whateveracct a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The US has swathes of relatively empty land trucks have to traverse for shipping that dwarf the entire nation of Germany.

freak42 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Then build railway systems

bigbadfeline 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Then build railway systems

Unfortunately those aren't made at McDonald's or at any other fast service establishment. In other words they are neither fast nor cheap to build.

If we exclude local commute, the US has a pretty good transportation system, as it is, road transport is indispensable in this mix, at least for now. It would make more sense to convert cars to EV's and use the saved fuel for trucks than to redo the transportation system.

whateveracct 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The highways are already there.

Flippant transit-signaling to say "just build railways." The people eating shit for diesel prices have little power to do so lol.

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garciasn a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We don't have mass transit to offset the need to drive our vehicles; nor is there much interest in making it happen.

epolanski a day ago | parent | next [-]

Diesel primarily impacts logistics though, not nearly as much personal transport.

You can cope paying 50$ month per month in diesel if you drive that much.

But at the scale of logistics companies, often tied to fixed pricing it's a tragedy.

blyry a day ago | parent | next [-]

~Construction and agriculture also run on diesel~ (edit..OPs comment was germane to the thread, and correct, logistics by large the majority of diesel usage on this report).

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_cons_821dst_dcu_nus_a.htm

bigfatkitten a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The spikes in fuel costs are enough now to eat the entire profit for a trip, and then some.

asyx a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Petrol is just s as expensive though

jdlshore a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Check your info bubble. The US has a superb freight rail system that transports massive amounts of goods. If you’re talking about diesel fuel, you’re talking about freight, and we absolutely do have mass transit for freight… one of the best in the world.

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bdangubic a day ago | parent | prev [-]

1.7 trillion ton-miles of freight per year is as massive as it gets…

abdusco 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What's that in football fields?

pseudohadamard 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It would be if I had the faintest idea what a ton-mile is. Is it like a firkin-furlong?

hjouneau a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is almost three times more taxes on gas in Germany than in US

p0w3n3d a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Please be minded that US people tend to tell prices without tax, because it differs from state to state. So it's I think even more... maybe even $6.20...

jfengel a day ago | parent [-]

Gas prices include all the tax. Unlike many other goods, there isn't an additional sales tax on top of the reported price.