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nahuel0x 4 hours ago

Israel and the US are bombing lots of schools and hospitals and civilian infrastructure, this is not the only case. This is intentional genocide, not a software/organizational/human error.

YZF 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Check out this example: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjw4egp7lwno

"As we pass through Khan Shaykhun, we come across a street painted in the colours of the Iranian flag. It leads to a school building that was being used as an Iranian headquarters." "On the wall at the entrance of the toilets, slogans read: "Down with Israel" and "Down with the USA".

It was evident that these headquarters were also evacuated at short notice. We found documents classified as "highly sensitive"."

This is a BBC reporter reporting from Syria after the fall of Assad.

It is strategy for the IRGC and Hamas to operate from civilian infrastructure like schools to gain immunity. That's what's "not a human error".

nahuel0x 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think nobody with a couple of neurons still buys the "every school and hospital in Gaza were Hamas, so we bombed them" nazi-zionist rhetoric.

csmpltn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Ask the people of Gaza themselves, what they think of Hamas.

nailer an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

But they didn't bomb every school in Gaza. You made that up. One school was even 'bombed' when a PIJ missile landed in its carpark but you made up the IDF doing that, which made you look silly when the hospital was still there in the morning. And MSF openly admit that Hamas was operating out of their hospitals.

> nazi-zionist rhetoric.

Holocaust invertion is when someone equates the idea that Jews should be able to live in their own homeland safely with nazism.

lejalv 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

The Israeli state leaders is proudly declaring superiority of their people, the need for vital space (Lebensraum, the great Israel), segregating their own citizens, conducting pogroms, you have all the doctrine there. Go find out where this book played before and how it all ended up.

bigyabai 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Help me understand how this justifies the collateral damage.

YZF 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I am countering the parent's statement that seems to indicate the US and Israel are intentionally targeting civilian infrastructure systematically for no reason. A lot of this infrastructure is targeted for good reason because it is used for military purposes.

This is totally unrelated to the topic where it seems the one school in question was incorrectly targeted based on what we know today (though not intentionally).

The general framework for justifying collateral damage is that enough care has to be taken to minimize it vs. the value of the military objective being achieved. Attacking an IRGC headquarters intentionally based in a school (e.g. if the example in Syria was to be attacked by Israel for example) still needs to pass this test. I.e. Israel would have to take measures to minimize collateral damage which would be proportional to the military value it gains by hitting the IRGC. But the (Syrian) school would have been considered a legitimate military target and the outrage should be towards the IRGC setting up camp there.

Hikikomori 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

To anyone responding to this be aware that this is one of the worst zionists we have on this website.

csmpltn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You threaten other countries with a nuclear holocaust and refuse to back down after 50 years of diplomacy - you get KO'd.

nailer an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> This is intentional genocide

Do you think it's genocide when the IRGC kill 30-40K Persian civilians? Or only when Americans missiles aimed at a military base miss their target?

lukifer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sufficiently advanced negligence is indistinguishable from malice.

This is not to say that this administration is definitely not targeting civilians or infrastructure on purpose; just that the end result, and the moral culpability, are the same in either case.