Blows my mind how you can buy a new gas motorcycle for the price of an ebike. And the thing with the ebike is it is built nothing like a motorcycle. Feels like the cheapest chinese part bike with the cheapest drivetrain they could source. A motorcyle the parts are like heavy, milled metal, the thing seems solid and well built, well, you probably know what I mean about motorcycles. Seems like you get a lot for your $5k in comparison to ebike market. I guess that is true for road bikes that aren’t even electric too. Somehow those also cost as much as motorcycles. Why buy a campagnolo when you can buy a ducati?

For $600 I bought a dual motor 1500w ebike that can haul my overweight self up a steep incline without pedalling. It tops out at 35mph. As long as I pedal along with it and stay at a sane speed I can ride 40-60 miles on a charge and still have enough juice for the last push uphill home.

It's not really an ebike, it's an e-moped at worst, and I'm glad that my locality doesn't have strong laws about it because it's fun, but I could also see how dangerous it could be in the hands of an amateur or thrill seeking rider.