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steveBK123 2 days ago

Remember when putting your entire life & business into the cloud was good because they were all offering 5 9s of uptime?

Very few cases these days.. feels like we are lucky to get 2 9s anymore.

bwb 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Honestly, downtime has gotten way better as one of the people behind (https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com). Compared to 10 years ago things are so much more redundant and harder to take down.

Fishkins 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Thanks for the data-based comment!

Have you noticed any change in that trend in the past year or two, or is it continuing to get better?

bwb a day ago | parent [-]

Np, 2 years is harder for me to tell. We need to get more of that data public and organized, and are looking at how we can do that...

We are working on some big improvements to the backend and should have some cool stuff to share later this year :)

MichaelZuo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So then why does no one offer 99.999% uptime guarantees in writing?

It should be low risk to offer such guarantees then.

staticassertion 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Well, (a) why would they? (b) "uptime" has shifted from a binary "site up/down" to "degraded performance", which itself indicates improvements to uptime since we're both pickier and more precise.

Alifatisk 2 days ago | parent [-]

Are we really questioning why cloud providers would offer better uptime guarantees?

staticassertion 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, I'm asking why they'd lock themselves into a contract around 5 9s of uptime since the parent poster mentioned that they won't do so. Of course, AWS actually does do this in some cases and they guarantee 99.99% for most things, so it feels a bit arbitrary - 5 minutes vs an hour, roughly.

MichaelZuo a day ago | parent [-]

So then its clearly not as trivial to achieve as you made it sound.

staticassertion a day ago | parent [-]

Are you replying to the right person?

groby_b 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can certainly sign a contract for five nines SLA with cloud providers.

You just won't like the price.

MichaelZuo 2 days ago | parent [-]

Then it’s clearly higher risk?

Anon1096 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

If you are asking this question you don't understand what it takes to hit 5 nines in a real life measured system.

ieie3366 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Thank you finally.

Tired of all the people online with anxiety who project their own personal issues by spamming this kind of doomer posts.

KellyCriterion 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability#Percentage_c...

torginus 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

'The outage of a single server is a tragedy, the outage of an entire AWS region is a statistic.'

- Stalin probably

steveBK123 a day ago | parent [-]

I do think it’s a choice by many CTOs to fail conventionally & collectively by delegating outage responsibility to AWS