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Observations from carbon dioxide monitoring(grieve-smith.com)
37 points by coloneltcb 2 days ago | 16 comments
jerlam an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I've got an Aranet4 and started tracking CO2 and submitting it to IndoorCO2Map (via https://whn.global/indoor-co2-map-co2-monitoring-and-data-co...), but after a short period of time, there aren't really any surprises. Carrying a CO2 detector everywhere seems like mostly a way to give yourself anxiety.

If it's crowded now, or was recently, the CO2 is going to be high. If the building is old, or low volume, the effect will be worse.

mgilroy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nightingal, and Robertson before her, argued for better designs in hospitals to overcome these issues. We are over 150 years on from this arguement which has already been proven.

Using a digital sensor isn't required. The spread of various Corona viruses and others increase during colder weather and are more likely to spread in enclosed environments with limited air flow.

Cafe door shut, no air exchange in place, it's winter and half the clientele are reaching for hankies. Your probably catching a cold.

davorak 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have a CO2 detector at home and bought some for family members, but I have never had a portable one so they stay at home. Some of the high CO2 ppm numbers in the article make me want to double check them. My vague understanding form reading the manual of the one I bought and watching how the numbers can be thrown off by cleaning products used near them make me wonder how much these high numbers are from sources other than CO2. That said I would still suspect that the a good chunk of the relative differences would be from CO2 changes.

bonyt 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The article linked in the first paragraph is almost more interesting to me[1]. Some of these places, like the subway, have air frequently circulated that can filter aerosols but leave CO2; this limitation makes me somewhat doubt its usefulness as a proxy for disease transmission risk.

Apart from disease transmission, since I've gotten a CO2 monitor in my apartment I've noticed that running the gas stove or oven for even a little while will make a huge spike in CO2.

[1] https://grieve-smith.com/ftn/2026/02/so-you-want-to-monitor-...

jadbox 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Gas stove, oven, and clothes dryer with polyester/nylon will all cause my air quality sensor to go into the red.

Some takeaways:

- be very careful of what oils you're using when cooking food to ensure they are not turning volatile

- try to avoid using a dryer for non-natural poly clothes and use hang drying instead

MetaWhirledPeas an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Buying a (relatively expensive) CO2 monitor is one of those purchases that I was pensive about at first, but have zero regrets about a few years later. I was ignorant of a lot of things related to air quality, CO2 in particular. We were foolishly running a gas stove in a house with no ventilation, which probably had us up in the 1500+ range every time. This may seem like an obvious no-no to most of you but it was not a lesson we had ever learned.

You also get to see some other interesting observations, like how local construction digging up dirt on your street can cause elevated radon levels for months on end.

woeirua an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Am I the only person here confused by the line the author draws between high CO2 levels and high transmissibility of viruses. I think they’re confusing correlation for causation here.

davorak an hour ago | parent [-]

> In the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic I learned that we can estimate our level of risk by checking the concentration of carbon dioxide in the air, because when infected people breathe out virus aerosols, they also breathe out CO2.

The above is from the author early on. So they go out of their way to point out that it is an estimate and also point out the mechanism that allows it work as an estimate in some conditions. "when infected people breathe out virus aerosols, they also breathe out CO2."

The article does not reenforce this through out the article though and leaves it to the reader to keep in mind.

jmclnx 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Very interesting article, but remember, making a room more airy will not mitigate the long term effects of CO2 on the Earth.

Older people may remember the push to make your house more energy efficient. So, seems you have a choice, higher energy bills or higher indoors C02.

So what is needed, move off fossil fuels. I remember seeing during the covid lockdown, C02 Levels did not raise for the first time in decades and I think they may have fell a little. That is because auto traffic decreased a lot. Right now I believe we are on our way to +2.5C :(

wiml 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The tension between an energy-efficient building and a well-ventilated one is real, but energy-recovery ventilation (ERV or HRV) is a thing and apparently works pretty well. Some kinds use counter-flow heat exchangers, some use an oscillating flow over a thermal mass (sometimes also a sorbent to keep moisture in or out).

nmlt an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Your reply is unrelated to the article which discusses measuring CO2 in order to gauge pathogen transmission risk.

Thorrez 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>So, seems you have a choice, higher energy bills or higher indoors C02.

An HRV or ERV can help with that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_recovery_ventilation

piskov 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What is wrong with you?

You literally breath co2 out.

The reason it is high is because you fucking breath out in a closed room. Fossil fuel my ass.

That’s why at least in my part of the world the recommended standard of what is considered great ventilation (meaning in and out) is at least 1 cubic meter of fresh air per minute for every person inside.

Half a cubic meter (or something around that) per minute per person is considered an absolute minimum. Less than that and the room is considered not valid for any working conditions.

1000+ co2 and you get fatigue, slow brain, drowsiness, heavy head, etc.

But be my guest, eco-brain yourself to a slowpoke IQ.

jeandejean 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem isn't to breathe CO2, it's pumping it in the atmosphere... This article really misses the point.

marginalia_nu 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Elevated CO2 levels reduces your cognitive abilities fairly significantly.

snibsnib 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The article has nothing to do with atmospheric CO2, it is about using CO2 as a proxy measurement for virus transfer.