| ▲ | paulv 2 days ago |
| > that a majority voted for A majority of people who voted. Not a majority of eligible voters and certainly not a majority. |
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| ▲ | tick_tock_tick 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| No one cares about people who don't bother to vote. If you can't manage even that you don't deserve an opinion. blah blah some exceptional circumstances, etc you all know what I mean. |
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| ▲ | Ylpertnodi 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > No one cares about people who don't bother to vote. If you can't manage even that you don't deserve an opinion. It's not so much that people 'don't bother to vote',, it's more that 'we' aren't prepared to vote for crooks that will campaign on one or two issues, but actually have several agendas running. Etc, etc. The opinion I may not 'deserve', is that I'm not playing your/ this game. No, I don't have a better solution (apart from many, many, referendums), but don't forget that 'just' my opinions may have changed somebody's pov regarding their vote, as i don't have a horse in the race, and regard the vast majority of politicians in very low regard. | | |
| ▲ | croon 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > The opinion I may not 'deserve', is that I'm not playing your/ this game. It's your game regardless if you vote or not. Not voting is in practice the same as voting for who wins. That is the only choice you have at election day. Beyond election day you can try to participate in a movement that pushes congress to implement ranked voting or help get other primary nominees etc, but anything other than voting for the least bad candidate in a two party system is naive. | |
| ▲ | throwway120385 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You're not voting for someone you agree with. You're voting for someone who you think will give in if pressured by protest and the courts. It matters less what individual issues they think they're going to "solve" while they're in office and more whether they have any shame or willingness to change in the face of protest or court order. | |
| ▲ | blue_pants 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Don't you have an option to vote against all?
Don't neglect it |
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| ▲ | what 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Anyone who was eligible but didn’t vote effectively voted for whomever won. The distinction doesn’t matter. |
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| ▲ | sillysaurusx 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Are you saying that if all eligible voters were forced to vote, Trump may have lost the popular vote? |
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| ▲ | paulv 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm saying that words have meanings and that it's important to be clear about what they are. | | | |
| ▲ | wafflemaker 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Are you saying that if all eligible voters were forced to vote, Trump may have lost the popular vote? I've recently heard a commentary by a man with PhD in international relations* about why has Trump won the elections. Specialist said that a lot of people who would have voted against Trump didn't vote. That was due to many grave mistakes made by the democrats. Usually when populists win, it's because the other side blatantly ignores some public issues. This time it was economic hardships, immigration/border control. There is also the long trend of turning away from the working class and focusing on protecting/supporting the DEI people instead. The working class might feel betrayed and vote against them instead. "The cost of hubris" - as one of the Minmatar militia missions from Eve online was called. | | |
| ▲ | d-cc 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Or there is mass neurocompromise. At least we have a pardon czar now. So many people have been coerced into committing crimes, with said coercion taking many different forms, there needs to be mass pardons across the board. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Marie_Johnson everybody check her out. |
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| ▲ | Hasnep 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I hate Trump as much as the next guy but this feels like nitpicking. You're obviously right, but if you choose not to vote then you're implicitly approving of whatever outcome you get. |
