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amrocha 3 hours ago

You’ve been brainwashed by your government. You don’t have any enemies. Nobody cares about you. Nobody is coming to hurt you or your family. The biggest risk to your livelihood is your government sending you to die in Iran over oil prices.

JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> You don’t have any enemies. Nobody cares about you. Nobody is coming to hurt you or your family

Do you think the U.S. and Israeli militaries have personal vendettas against each and every civilian we've killed in Iran? Of course we don't. We can barely count them. Just because you aren't personally on your community's adversary's radar doesn't mean they aren't a threat.

(To be clear, I don't believe Iran was a threat. But there are threats to Americans, and it's absolutley not brainwashing to ascribe a threat to a group to oneself personally instead of waiting for it to be purely selfishly relevant before acting.)

amrocha 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Again, stop acting like you and your government are a “we”. You’re not. They decide what to do, and you have to deal with it.

The biggest threat to you is your government starting a senseless war. Nobody is going to attack the US if your government stopped trying to meddle in other countries affairs.

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Nobody is going to attack the US if your government stopped trying to meddle in other countries affairs

How did that work out for Ukraine? The idea that we live in a just world where everyone who has chaos rain down on them deserves it is so simply refuted even by a cursory glance at just modern history.

zarathustreal 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You’re significantly worse off assuming your government is adversarial than cooperative, regardless of what reality may be, and the majority of us know that. It’s why the chaos psyops aren’t working. We’re not happy with our government but apes together strong

amrocha 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And what has that attitude gotten you? 30 years of sending kids to die in the middle east?

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> what has that attitude gotten you?

I've gotten language I wrote passed into multiple state and a few federal laws. Definitey helps when I'm the only one to call my electeds on an issue.

The lazy and nihilistic aren't great for our country. But they're great if you put any work into civic engagement.

zarathustreal an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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keybored 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The number one most proximate enemy to a regular person is their local/national elite and their sycophants/enablers.

How easy this is to comprehend when Iran is killing protesters.