I agree, I meant to be explicit that the one rule was "gravity";

Variation (chaos) comes from the tidal push/pull of all cumulative processes - all processes are nearly periodic (2nd law) and get slower - guaranteeing oscillator harmonics at intervals.

These intervals are astronomically convulted, but still promise a Fourier distribution of frequency: tidal effects ensure synchronization eventually, as all periods resonate eventually.

As systems are increasingly exposed to pendulums of positive and negative coherence, they will generalize for variance, and eventually for increasingly (fourier) selective filters of increasingly resiliente traits, that will generalize.

The system would eventually be increasingly resilient and eventually an awareness would develop.

Awareness of past periodic cycles would improve fitness (with or without consciousness) and eventually the mechanistic processes would be in the systems nature.

This is why we have pointless traditions, folk lore, collective unconscious artifacts, cyclical cataclysmic religions, the Fermi Paradox, the great filters...

Variation and selection are woven, but understanding how it all stems from gravity by means of nearly perioidic oscillators (spinning planets, tidal pools, celestial bodies) due to the conservation of angular momentum, due to the 3body problem.....that is what took a genius to reconcile

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zoogeny 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> eventually an awareness would develop

I am not sure how this is a necessary conclusion to the premises you provide.

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Jerrrrrrrry an hour ago | parent [-]

Awareness would be any form of agency, goal seeking, or loss minimizing.

As Briggs–Rauscher reactions can eventually lead to Belousov–Zhabotinsky reactions, the system can maintain homeostasis with its environment (and continuing to oscillate) by varying reactants in a loss minimizing fashion.

This loss minimizing would be done during scarcity to limp towards an abundance phase.

This is the mechanism that hypothetical tidal pools batteries would had exhibited to continue between periods of sunlight/darkness/acidity that eventually gets stratified as a resilency trait.

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zoogeny an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm not sure what your argument is here, except stating an opinion that loss minimization is equivalent to agency. But even if that was accepted, which is a huge stretch, it doesn't stretch all the way to awareness.

	▲	Jerrrrrrrry 37 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It is, in context of its place in the cosmic scale. Loss minimizing to a few problems will generalize into abstraction, and a few solutions will develop. These systems with more generalizable resilency traits will encounter increasingly varied selective sieves. Systems that survive this seive will exhibit increasingly sophisticated, generalizable solutions to prevent loss of needed dependent reactions/resources. These solutions must exert influence to be effective; influencing the environment for its own benefit. As systems influence their environment, delineation of "self" and "environment" becomes a fundamental barrier. The system would prefer itself, or be outcompeted by a similar system that does. This layer of semi-life like material would form between sunlight and the oscillating reaction, and eventually envelope it, minimizing surface tension by means of a spherical cell like structure. Small stuff runs off of loss minimizing at a force level for its mechanistic affect; from covalent bonds to cellular ion transport, the path of lesser resistance is the fundamental forces. As systems become more complex, the minimizing is less directly attributable to the fundamental forces and becomes more of a Byzantine dependency/feedback network. This byzantine labyrinth of interactions is called biology. The delineation of self, the ego. At the highest levels, geopolitics. At the human level, mate suppression. Lowest level, energy conservation. All loss minimizing

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whattheheckheck 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So where does gravity come from?

	▲	Jerrrrrrrry an hour ago \| parent [-]
		A cool illusion, just another emergent property of our geometrical solution: higher dimensional aperiodic tilings of a 10^80 faceted complex polyhedra "walking" on another large aperioidic Penrose plane, that is getting smaller in a dimension we observe as "energy". Basically a dice with a bajillion sides is getting rolled along an increasingly slim poker table, house winning eventually. Time only goes one way, protons dont decay, energy is radiated unto the cosmic background hiss, until homogeneity is reached as CMB, and entrophy reaches 1. I dont know where it comes from, but I know the shape it makes as it rolls by.