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lelanthran 7 hours ago

> I asked because I'm curious, and Googling just gives opinion pieces and not data.

Women complaining are voicing an opinion. Is this a good enough citation for the claim that women don't want to compete with men?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndSDgsMnKI

happymellon 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Considering I was asking whether there was evidence on trans-performance, sure it matters a little.

That's fine if they don't want to compete with men, but the statements were because "it's unfair". I was curious if there had been any studies on this.

lelanthran 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Considering I was asking whether there was evidence on trans-performance, sure it matters a little.

Well, (and I hesitate to say this because of HN guidelines, but) it was in the article, which I assumed you read. It was this assumption that made me think you wanted evidence that it is women who are complaining about competing against men.

FTFA

> Late last year Dr. Jane Thornton, the I.O.C.’s medical and scientific director and a Canadian former Olympic rower, presented the initial findings of a review of athletes who are transgender or have differences of sexual development, known as DSD, and are competing in women’s sports. That analysis, which has not been made public, stated athletes born with male sexual markers retained physical advantages, including among those that had received treatment to reduce testosterone.

happymellon 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't see that anywhere in the linked Yahoo article.

Does it have a link to any of the findings?

lelanthran 6 hours ago | parent [-]

The linked article is to the nytimes. I dunno which article is the yahoo one. This story was on the nytimes, it's the one under discussion.

> Does it have a link to any of the findings?

The findings I posted where from the linked article, to the nytimes. The findings were exactly as I posted them; in brief, athletes born with male markers retain their physical advantages.

generj 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There’s probably a reason the analysis has not been made public.

It’s not evidence until published because it can’t be disputed.

throwawaytea 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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thrance 2 hours ago | parent [-]

"I can't believe you won't embrace our simplistic bigoted narrative with zero proof".

throwawaytea an hour ago | parent [-]

The world records and overall sport results by male/female are the proof.

greygoo222 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can debate what policies are the most fair without calling trans women "men."