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| ▲ | freedomben 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Yep. I bought a Samsung TV that I never even put online. It pops up with a half-screen display that lasts for 2 minutes every time I turn it on . Never again. |
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| ▲ | jvolkman 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | What is the half-screen display? On my Samsung S90D (new within the last year or so), I can set it to skip the "home" screen and go directly to the last input on power on. It works well. | | |
| ▲ | sjsdaiuasgdia 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | A manufacturer can target multiple markets and make different choices for different markets. The Samsung S90D (a 65" 4K model) you bought appears to sell for about $1000. Looking at Best Buy's site, you can also buy a Samsung 65" 4K TV for as little as $180 (model DU6900). Yes, there's other differences. LED vs OLED etc. But at a glance they seem equivalent to a consumer...and one costs 5x more. The $1000 TV is targeting a market that expects more from their purchase and would potentially grate at a persistent sign-in notification. The <$200 TV is targeting a market that wants a big TV and hasn't thought much past that. There's definitely a chance that on some models Samsung would be more aggressive about enabling smart features, because those models are expected to be subsidized by ads. | | |
| ▲ | jvolkman 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | While all of that is certainly true, even the DU6900 has the "Start with Smart Hub Home" option that defaults to enabled but can be disabled according to its manual. I assume that's what OP is seeing; it's a common thing to want to disable on Samsung TVs. | | |
| ▲ | freedomben an hour ago | parent [-] | | I'm not at home currently so can't check, but you might be right about what it is. I'll definitely have to check! I do remember being nagged to connect to wifi though, but it might be a combination or something. I appreciate you mentioning this because if I can just disable it, that would actually improve my life :-) |
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| ▲ | m463 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's like poor people living in the crowded business district with little peace and giant billboards shining in the bedroom window. | |
| ▲ | jerlam 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There are free TVs now that are completely subsidized by ads: https://www.telly.com/ But don't think people who can afford the more expensive TV are also more tech-savvy. Some just want a nicer TV. Also, they are a much more lucrative target market than people who cannot afford the nicer TV. | | |
| ▲ | nunez an hour ago | parent [-] | | I finally saw one of these in person last year! It was as fascinating as it was terrifying. It had a noticable array of sensors and (I think?) microphones along with a camera smack dab in the middle. Above that was its permanent ad display. The TV also has access to its own portal, which was what was on when I saw it. An AI-generated reporter was talking about entertainment news. Not even Orwell could've imagined a better telescreen than this. You know it's chock full of anti-defeat protections to prevent curious minds from scoring a free TV. |
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| ▲ | deltoidmaximus 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 2 minutes. I think I would have boxed that up and returned it to the store as broken. | | |
| ▲ | freedomben 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Heh, I really almost did. It started a big fight with the wife, and I lost the battle quickly. Not a day goes by that I don't wish I'd fought that fight. |
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| ▲ | plagiarist 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Samsung is top of my list of companies to never buy from. Except SSDs, I guess. Would be nice if I could meaningfully reject all products from a given company. I'm sure they'll someday cram ads and spyware into those also. |
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| ▲ | boutell 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I get that they could do this in a future update, but if you never connect it to the Internet, a TV that doesn't require it today isn't going to just start. (Unless they pregamed to do it on such-and-such-a-date, but that would be a nightmare for their legal department if the rules change) |
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| ▲ | oliwarner 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They can't do that later if you never sign in. If they do that now, you just refuse their terms, get a refund. |
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| ▲ | boilerupnc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Pi-Hole sped up my Samsung home and menu screens tremendously. I use something like this list [0]. The growing size of the list itself is a testament to the enshittification of Smart TVs. I wonder if the SmartTV blocklist change history and size of commits could tell a historical story of how things have evolved? I'm aware that DoH makes this approach less and less viable ... but for my existing TVs it still seems to work fine as long as I'm careful not to blindly update. [0] https://github.com/Perflyst/PiHoleBlocklist/blob/master/Smar... |
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