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elephanlemon 5 hours ago

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> This means on April 6, 2026, Gmail, LinkedIn, Microsoft and other Big Techs must stop scanning your private messages in the EU

It had already passed and started?

vaylian 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It had already passed and started?

Facebook and others have been scanning your private messages for many years already. Then someone discovered that this practice is illegal in Europe. So they passed the temporary chat control 1.0 emergency law to make it legal. The plan was to draft a chat control 2.0 law that would then be the long-term solution. But negotiations took too long and the temporary law will expire on the 4th of April (not the 6th) which means that it will be illegal again for Facebook and others to scan the private messages of European citizens without prior suspicion of any wrongdoing.

moffkalast a few seconds ago | parent [-]

I take it facebook/meta paid no fines for doing it illegally in the first place?

isodev 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Of course, remember Apple championed the idea with iMessage scanning which at the time produced A LOT of discussion e.g. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/2021-we-told-apple-don...

nickslaughter02 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, voluntary Chat Control 1.0 has been running since 2021.

SiempreViernes 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, chat control 1.0 is about making an existing practice legal, it didn't create the practice of scanning messages for know child sexual abuse material, though I don't know how long that has been going on before the legislation in 2021 passed (but probably for several years at that point, since getting a new law trough takes a while).

fh973 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gmail and likely others have been scanning at least emails for child pornography since the 2010s.

layer8 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2021/1232/oj/eng

3836293648 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Something something constitutional (ish*) rights say you can't do this.

Chat Control 1 says, eh do it anyway if you want on a voluntary and temporary basis until the Courts get around to saying no.

Chat Control 2 says you have to. Until the courts finally get around to striking it down in 15 years.

inglor_cz 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It was possible on a voluntary basis.

appstorelottery 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What happens to the already scanned metadata?

layer8 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The data that isn’t flagged from scanning is prohibited from being stored in the first place. Flagging is required to have maximum accuracy and reliability according to the state of the art. Data that was flagged is stored as long as needed to confirm (by human review) and report it. Data that isn’t confirmed must be deleted without delay.

gostsamo 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There was an interim legislation that will expire in april.