I'm not disputing that American sources are untrustworthy. I'm not disputing that the situation is bad.

I don't read Arabic, but I'd be happy to look at a citation with assistance: if 50% of babies in Baghdad are dying, someone would be reporting on it.

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MomsAVoxell 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Second link:

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/...

Maybe you didn’t read it.

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macintux 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Right, 15 years ago in a recently heavily bombarded city 50% of children were born with defects, according to one study. Terrible even if off by an order of magnitude.

Nothing in that document, or anything else I've found, supports the claim that today in Baghdad half of all children are dying from birth defects.

Things were bad. Are still bad. But throwing around inaccurate numbers does not help matters.

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MomsAVoxell 13 hours ago | parent [-]

>Right, 15 years ago in a recently heavily bombarded city 50% of children

In a lot of the bombarded cities, not just Fallujah. Wherever US forces went they left a heinous legacy which is still paid for by the mothers of Iraq.

>Baghdad

There’s another study for Baghdad out there, I’ll link it if I can find it.

>inaccurate numbers

Straw man argument. The numbers are inaccurate because the studies are obfuscated by US-led institutions such as NIH, which have a vested interest in avoiding the truth. Like was done with Agent Orange as a precedent, of course.

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macintux 9 hours ago | parent [-]

50% of children dying at (or before) birth in a major city should be global news. I want it to be not true, but if it is true, I want someone to be talking about it.

I don't know what's so hard to understand about "this is a remarkable claim and requires some evidence". No one in this thread has supplied ANY evidence that it is true.

	▲	aa-jv 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Did you not read the links given, which have further details about the actual studies?