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arethuza 3 days ago

Robert the Bruce, King of Scots, held his position on the condition that "...if he should give up what he has begun, seeking to make us or our kingdom subject to the King of England or the English, we should exert ourselves at once to drive him out as our enemy and a subverter of his own right and ours, and make some other man who was well able to defend us our King"

graemep 2 days ago | parent [-]

That is a pretty narrow requirement and what he wanted to do anyway.

Maybe it was required because as an Anglo-Norman himself, and his former position in England and his families former position, he needed to guarantee where his loyalties lay?

arethuza 2 days ago | parent [-]

Indeed, but it's interesting that it is included in the Declaration of Arbroath asking the Pope to recognise Scotland's independence - I think it might have been to emphasise that it wasn't just about his wants but all of the Scottish aristocracy?

graemep 2 days ago | parent [-]

I have no idea, but it seems to be an interesting question. I am going to ask a historian about this.

I did a quick search and i had no idea that Robert the Bruce was excommunicated twice and had both excommunications lifted!

arethuza 2 days ago | parent [-]

One of my favourite Robert the Bruce stories is about all the adventures his heart had once he died and it was removed from his body:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Teba