| ▲ | rayiner 16 hours ago | |||||||
You didn’t answer my hypothetical. What would you do if the GOP figured out how to flood the city where you live with people from rural Alabama, to the degree where they started shifting the balance in the government? > one of those immigrants should assimilate to Our Western Culture types. Yes, obviously! The idea that immigrants need not assimilate was a fringe idea even in my now-blue suburb of Virginia just a few decades ago. Yes, immigrants should adopt Anglo-American culture. They should raise their kids the way Anglos raise their kids. Anglo culture is the common thread between Britain, the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and to a degree Hong Kong and Singapore. That’s a fucking incredible track record. > they have an equal vote to you. learn to coexist and compromise. that's the spirit of this country No, the spirit of the country is where British americans forced everyone who came after them to assimilate into Anglo culture. Insofar as you can say the mass immigration experiment has previously worked in American history, it was done under a regime of forced assimilation. And the last time we had the foreign born population this high, we had a 40+ year period of immigration restriction to Anglicize all of them. What we’re doing now—with people like you implying that assimilation is a bad word—has been tried before. It’s actually common all over the world in places like Iraq, Syria, etc. It’s ethnocultural factionalism, and it’s disastrous. In Iraq you can easily predict how people will vote based on which group they belong to. It’s not real democracy. | ||||||||
| ▲ | zzrrt 12 hours ago | parent [-] | |||||||
> In Iraq you can easily predict how people will vote based on which group they belong to. It’s not real democracy. What is democracy then? On what reasons are people allowed to base their vote on? I don’t think it's possible to cleanse your brain of every iota of cultural, ethnic, or religious background and just vote as "yourself." Your preferences are melded, in part, by your group identity. And you think decades ago before your suburb was "corrupted" by anti-assimilation, that people's group identity didn't predict how they voted? I think you can find a poll link to disprove that. At the least there were probably some Black people voting how Black Americans tended to, or maybe another ethnicity in your area. So your complaint is nonsensical to me, or at least it’s been a "problem" for decades longer than you say. Was the 15th Amendment the start of the problem, to you? A bunch of unassimilated non-Anglos were dumped into the voting pool en masse, only to get worse with the 19th and a bunch more people who were different than the dominant voting base were added. | ||||||||
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