lithium cost $22/kg. 1 KW/h is 0.2kg lithium in 5 kg of batteries that costs $100 retail on AliExpress. So it isn't about lithium price. It seems that just manufacturing and delivering a 1kg of low-mid-complexity stuff comes about $20/kg. (just for example - a car weights 1000-2000kg and costs $30K)

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nandomrumber 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Amusingly, $20 to $30 per kilogram is about what we pay for groceries here in Australia from the supermarkets when averaged over a few bags of mixed items.

	▲	wuschel 14 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		USD / kg?

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himata4113 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

huh? shipping 10t of metal via ocean to europe is ~3k if you want it fast, less if it's batched with other deliveries. (I would know. I've purchased some)

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nandomrumber 6 hours ago | parent [-]

>> low-mid-complexity stuff

> metal

One of these things is a manufacturing input (metal), where as the other (stuff) is a manufacturing output.

Steel mills are on a different scale altogether. And anyway, the wholesale price of steel to manufacturing industry is around the $2.50 / kg mark for plate and hot rolled sections, but you have to be buying it by the hundreds or tonnes up qualifying for those prices.

	▲	himata4113 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		either the OP is a poorly worded statement or I lost the plot, we're talking about shipping cost here? the price of lithium is a very big factor for battery pricing?