Where are all those "as an EU citizen" commenters? You are but a subject of an ultra-national government whose sole objective is ever increased control over your life and euros.

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latexr 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

As a EU citizen, it pisses me off that the US is (with others outside the EU) trying this hard to lobby to undermine our democracy and freedom of speech.

https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer/1162053712243153...

And I’d still take this clusterfuck over the alternative current state of the US. At least this situation we can (and have been) striking down, despite all the naysayers on HN. Here’s to hoping we’re able to do so again!

	▲	gorwell 12 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You blame everyone but your own lawmakers and bureaucracy? Are they not the ones who pass and enforce EU laws?

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moffkalast an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

As an EU citizen I have to remind you that as a (most likely) US citizen, you've had the Patiot act sanction the NSA to have free reign for this sort of thing for the past 25 years.

We've shot it down before, and we'll shoot it down again, regardless of how relentless Palantir lobbying gets.

	▲	pessimizer 29 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> you've had the Patiot act sanction the NSA to have free reign for this sort of thing for the past 25 years. This is not true. No part of the Patriot Act required all people all private messages and photos to be scanned or have a backdoor to encryption. You're saying this to minimize what's about to happen to Europe, which is not helpful. The NSA made deals with private companies to tap lines, and used its influence and US intelligence's secret ownership of a Swiss encryption company to encourage us to use broken algorithms. > We've shot it down before, and we'll shoot it down again, regardless of how relentless Palantir lobbying gets. I wish you luck. But there's nothing keeping the EU from doing, and having always done, what the NSA has also done. What you're trying to stop is the requirement to serve your communications to your rulers on a silver platter.