Can you clarify what you mean? The linked website makes it seem that the majority MEPs of the supporting countries are on board. Are all of the (listed as) supporting countries currently under conservative governments?

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AnssiH 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The majority of the MEPs are not onboard mandatory scanning, otherwise that would've been passed already.

The site is conflating mandatory scanning with voluntary scanning (status quo). The upcoming vote is about continuing the voluntary scanning (which would otherwise expire).

	▲	vaylian 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The "voluntary" scanning is still mass surveillance of private messages. We as technologist tend to rely on technical methods to protect our private data. But non-technical people should also enjoy confidential communication, even if they don't actively protect their conversations.
	▲	lostmsu 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> voluntary scanning What is that? A setting in OS?

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vrganj 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To quote the banner on said website:

> The Conservatives (EPP) are attempting to force a new vote on Thursday (26th), seeking to reverse Parliament's NO on indiscriminate scanning.

The vote itself is being forced by the EPP. This article by an MEP has more info: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/the-battle-over-chat-contro...

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freehorse 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This does not mean that only EPP supports the bill, though.

	▲	vrganj 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		No, but it does mean the attempt is attributable to them.

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iso1631 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There are two elements to the EU

The Council, which is headed by the government of each member state in equal measure - similar to the Senate in the US

And Parliament, which are directly elected by the people, with each member state having representitives in proportion to their population, so Germany has far more than Ireland. This is similar to Congress.

Now this site says Germany supports it, but then says that MEPS

> 49 oppose, 47 in favor (45 confirmed, 2 presumed based on government stance)

I would thus infer that the "most member states" refer to the national governments (that were elected by their population) position and not the direct MEP position.

However a quick look at the json it's loading and I can't see

Now as the parliament has blocked it, a grouping, the "EPP" (Think Ronald Reagan type republicans) is trying to use their influence to bring it back to a vote.

> "The Conservatives (EPP) are attempting to force a new vote on Thursday (26th), seeking to reverse Parliament's NO on indiscriminate scanning. This is a direct attack on democracy and blatant disregard for your right to privacy."

	▲	sgt 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Is that fair? Ireland should surely have a say the same way Germany does in parliament too, if it's affecting Ireland just as much. If one considers countries as units.