| ▲ | vrganj 6 hours ago |
| Is it anti-semitism or anti-Israel sentiment? Because if it's the latter, well, have you taken a look at their behavior recently? Their ethnicity/religion has nothing to do with why people condemn the state. |
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| ▲ | jmward01 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| This exactly. Expressing a view that the Israeli government is causing massive harm to the world right now is not a view on an ethnic or religious group. There is a difference, but I have been noticing a strong attempt to try to link the two. |
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| ▲ | vrganj 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | It is the shield behind which these war criminals hide, not caring that their behavior is causing an actual surge in antisemitism. |
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| ▲ | nailer 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yes it is. Arabs started a war in 1967 and lost some land. Germany started a war in 1939 and lost some land. Nobody on HN is demanding France and Poland return to their 1944 borders. Likewise Germany lost more people than Britain. But HN isn't demanding that Britain stop because Britain is better at defending itself. HN clearly doesn't like Israel, but they don't do it because of Israel's behavior because they don't hate other countries when the same thing happens. Just the 80% Jewish one. |
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| ▲ | vrganj 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Has Germany been bombing its neighbors lately? | | |
| ▲ | nailer 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | vrganj 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Indeed. But as you might notice, WW2 is almost a century ago at this point. Were they to do it in the present day, they would have to face present day criticism. However, they don't do that anymore, which makes your whole attempt at false equivalency rather hollow. | | |
| ▲ | nailer 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > WW2 is almost a century ago at this point. 1944 and 1967 aren't that far apart. You just think the war won by the Jews needs to be reversed and the war won by the Allies does not. > More false equivalency. You might be projecting there. | | |
| ▲ | vrganj 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | 1945 and 2026 are though. The reasons people dislike Israel today is because of their actions over the past few years. But you know that, you just seek to distort and twist. It is not a conversation for you, it is an opportunity for hateful propaganda. | | |
| ▲ | nailer 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > 1945 and 2026 are though. Are you seriously stating anti-Israel activists have stopped asking Israel to return to their borders before the war? > The reasons people dislike Israel today is because of their actions over the past few years. No. People have disliked Israel before it existed as a country: Arab violence aginst Jews was the basis of British Palestine being partitioned. Arabs have also been violent towards Christians, Druze and other groups that have not submitted to Islam in all the countries that Arabs have colonised. |
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| ▲ | falnatsheh 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't think Ukrainian will appreciate your logic. | | |
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