You elect clowns, you get a circus.

The US has turned into a Wall-e society just getting off on entertainment and bored with civilized, thoughtful politicians. This is the end result of TOO MUCH prosperity for the average American.

They haven't experienced true hardship in generations and we (the rest of the world) is paying the price of their hubris.

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pstuart 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Watching helplessly from the inside is painful. What makes it worse is I know people who are intelligent and appear to not be hateful SOBs that voted for the clowns, and would do so again. It breaks my brain, and my heart.

	▲	estearum 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		IMO those people you're describing are the worst of them all. I can forgive someone too (legitimately) stupid to know better. But many people are not that. https://www.onthewing.org/user/Bonhoeffer%20-%20Theory%20of%...
	▲	abraxas 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Perhaps they are not as intelligent as you think they are.

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Dig1t 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

From the article:

>Israel could force the United States into a war with Iran at any time.

>It should go without saying that creating the conditions where the sometimes unpredictable junior partner in a security relationship can unilaterally bring the senior partner into a major conflict is an enormous strategic error, precisely because it means you end up in a war when it is in the junior partner’s interests to do so even if it is not in the senior partner’s interests to do so.

This situation is not just because we elected a clown, these people donated hundreds of millions to Trump's campaign (Miriam Adelson, Sheldon Adelson, Larry Elison, etc). The same lobby (the Israel lobby) has contributed hundreds of millions more to almost every US senator, to the point that both political parties are pretty much aligned when it comes to serving Israel. There are plenty of politicians in the Democrat party who are quietly supporting this war because at the end of the day they've been bought by the same lobby.

Kamala (the alternative candidate in the 2024 election) has her own ties to Israel, and publicly said "all options are on the table" to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Which means had she won the election she likely would have also invaded Iran.

It goes beyond just who we elected, it's huge sums of money flowing through our political system and effectively buying our politicians.

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mrguyorama 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We had Israel friendly politicians for at least 50 years, all of which who eagerly wanted to fuck up Iran ("Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" anyone?) and we didn't because they were at least sober enough to understand that it was moronic and would obviously be some sort of strategic defeat or decades long boondoggle.

No president has ever been this fucking stupid.

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manyaoman an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For me that was the best insight in the whole article. Here are a few extra sentences for context:

> So Iran would now have to assume that an Israeli air attack was also likely an American air attack. It was hardly an insane assumption – evidently according to the Secretary of State, American intelligence made the exact same assessment. But the result was that by bombing the Iranian nuclear facilities in June of 2025, the Trump administration created a situation where merely by launching a renewed air campaign on Iran, Israel could force the United States into a war with Iran at any time.

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abraxas 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nonsense. Of course Democrats are also on Israel's side. The US will always take Israel's side in any Middle East dispute. But it's only this infantile man and his clown cart that is stupid enough to go along with any and every hare brained idea that Israel puts forth.

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watwut an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Israel is entirely dependent on USA. If USA says they cant attack, they wont.

	▲	markdown 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		But most US politicians are dependent on Israel-aligned donors, so the US isn't going to say they can't attack. They'll do what they need to in order to keep the money flowing in so they can get re-elected.