> Iran seemingly is coming out of this mess stronger than it was before.

This is a wild take. Their top leaders and generals have been killed, they have no control over their own airspace, have their military and civilian infrastructure completely at the mercy of their enemies, and have no navy/airforce any more.

Oh, and their currency collapsed.

But other than that they are doing great.

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surgical_fire 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, and for some reason this place that has "military and civilian infrastructure" completely at the mercy of their enemies is right now exercising full control of one extremely important sea trade route, and is wreaking havoc on all gulf states allied to the US, and is successfully hitting targets on Israel.

Facts have this annoying tendency of getting in the way of propaganda.

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hersko 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Explain how they are better off than when the war started.

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surgical_fire 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Since you seemingly have trouble reading text, I'll try to condense it in some bullet points.

Unfortunately HN has no crayon functionality:

1. Regime still in power, legitimized by the defense against foreign agressors.

2. Internal unrest loses steam.

3. Effective control of the strait of Hormuz, being able to, for example, dictate who is allowed to pass through and/or demand tolls for safe passage.

4. Weakening of the US presence in the Gulf countries. In particular the destruction of radar systems. Those things are expensive.

5. Lifting of sanctions on Iranian oil, at a time where the resource is very expensive.

6. Likely will be able to pursue its nuclear ambitions undeterred.

	▲	hersko an hour ago \| parent [-]
		1) What defense? They have been punching back but have been unable to stop enemy strikes. Do you understand what the word "defense" means? 2) That happened before the war, and the protesters have been told to hold off for now. Its completely irrelevant to this war. 3) They control it for now. We'll see how long they can continue threatening global trade. My money is not for long. [1] 4) Attacking radar systems is not weakening the US presence in gulf countries. What they have succeeded in doing is attacking almost every gulf country souring relations. 5) This makes no difference since they were selling to russia and china regardless 6) This makes no sense, as they had operational Nuclear facilities up until the moment Israel/US blew them up. There is no reason to think we wouldn't do it again. [1] https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/bahrain-uae-join-20-oth...