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mayhemducks a day ago

Can we all just agree that cyber criminals suck? Especially if you are a legit developer who wants to offer useful apps to the world?

Don't get me wrong, I can't stand surveillance, and I think age verification is virtue signaling and will have very little affect on actual cyber crime. We need a better way to stop online abuse.

But certificates, GateKeeper, app certification, app stores etc. are all supposed to mitigate serious harm from bad actors.

We need to get much better at security in general if we want to have nice things.

hedora a day ago | parent [-]

The worst cybercriminals are allowed on the app store. Facebook and Google are two obvious examples.

Even if avoid installing their apps, take a look at all the third-party data harvesting malware that iOS apps bundle. You'll find you have plenty of stuff installed from them, and even worse actors.

Linux doesn't have any of this developer certification bullshit, and it has (almost) none of these issues.

mayhemducks a day ago | parent [-]

How exactly are you turning my comment into defending Facebook and Google? If that's how it comes off then I believe it is being misinterpreted.

I would also argue that Linux does have it - at least in Ubuntu it does with snaps. And package maintainers do a lot of unseen, thankless work as well.

As a developer, I do not like having to deal with certificates. But the few times I have seen them prevent serious problems, I was glad they were there.