I'm kinda surprised about how hard GenAI fell on its face in the arts (including SD and other video generators). It seemed so promising, when SD came out and it turned out the model fit on people's GPUs. People started making LoRAs, hyperparameter tunes, mixing models, training models for representing characters, ComfyUI and Controlnet came out yada yada.

Then it became synonymous with slop, lowest common denominator content made without care, instead of a tool for enabling people willing to put in a varying level of skill, kinds of expertise and effort, like coding models did.

▲ iterateoften 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You’re most likely consuming a large quantity of genai art without even knowing it.

▲ toraway 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, and I'm also consuming a gigantic quantity of GenAI art while knowing it, completely against my will. Which like OP has soured my overall perception of it.

The existence of inoffensive use cases doesn't invalidate anything OP is saying, that's just a natural human reaction to overexposure of a technology.

In the span of less than 2 years, pretty much everywhere I look has been inundated with zero-effort spam, manipulated imagery, etc that has had a net-negative impact on my life. Even if it may also be helpful for a small business making a flyer or whatever without actively making my life worse, that doesn't really move the needle on my overall attitude.

	▲	Insimwytim 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		`> manipulated imagery` And we thought iPhone camera videos were bad... (they were (and are) though)

▲ jazzyjackson 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sure, and there’s lot of great man made art that I don’t enjoy quite as much because I can’t get the question out of my head, is this even a photograph someone took, is this even a painting someone bothered to paint. I get the sense that there are a lot of folks that just want the end result judged on its own merits, like, is it a funny vine or not, is it a compelling beautiful digital painting or not, but I want to know whether there’s a person behind it, expressing themselves, growing as an artist etc, or if the picture on my phone is totally divorced from any humans actual desire to say something. Having them mixed in the same pot just makes me less hungry.

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jallmann 4 hours ago | parent [-]

This is where curation matters, eg in a newsroom or gallery. Provenance is their job, and if done well, can connect people in a way that an unfiltered social media firehose can't.

	▲	jazzyjackson 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yea fair enough, I’m hoping I can encourage the folks in my life that are not adept at telling truth from fiction to just cut out looking at any social media firehouse. It’s so dumb that Zuck and Elmo want to inject^H^H^H^H^H^Hrecommend content into these people’s feeds while they’re checking in on their neices and nephews and local book clubs.

▲ Insimwytim 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I never understood what people are trying to say with comments like that.

- You're making unsubstantiated claim

- personally targeting someone you don't even know

- in order to celebrate presumed success of a mass fraud?

▲ fc417fc802 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're conflating mainstream popular opinion and professional usage. They're entirely separate. The obvious low effort pieces get lambasted. Meanwhile the high effort work doesn't draw attention. The public perception right now has little to do with technical capabilities being driven almost entirely by social factors.

▲ MattGaiser 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What the masses have found entertaining has always been referred to as slop, so I am not sure it matters.

Novels, cinema, television, comic books, etc.

They were all considered careless skill-free slop at some point.