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Waterluvian 2 hours ago

I grew up understanding that one of Tesla’s big innovations was using AC to transmit power distances so that there weren’t tremendous losses and line meltings or something. Can someone help me reconcile the delta between this understanding and the above comment? Was this not actually a thing? Or have we overcome it somehow?

jacquesm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

HVDC is a miracle of modern engineering that could not have been done in the days of Tesla. It removes several sources of losses that otherwise would have turned valuable power into heat. That said, it isn't without drawbacks: the cables are quite expensive, harder to repair and somewhat fragile, and 'local stepdown' which otherwise would just be a properly rated (capacity and insulation) transformer now turns into a much higher technology exercise. HVDC is for now relegated to a long haul role not unlike oil pipelines compared to the AC network which is far more interconnected and wide spread. You are unlikely to see HVDC used for lower level distribution in the next decade, just as you are unlikely to see your local gas station hooked up to an oil pipeline.

cogman10 an hour ago | parent [-]

> the cables are quite expensive, harder to repair and somewhat fragile

Nope, HVDC uses the same style of cable as AC. I'm not sure why you'd think they'd be different.

The HVDC cables that can be expensive are meant to be submerged. A feat that only HVDC can do. HVAC can't be submerged due to the capacative effect.

But otherwise I agree. It's more a pipedream for me that HVDC becomes more common place as I believe it'd make grids ultimately more stable and resilient.

jacquesm an hour ago | parent [-]

Hm, yes, you are right, I must have been reading on submerged cables, but it's a while ago.

The devil is in the details here, AC tri-phase cabling can not easily be re-purposed for HVDC purposes because you only have a pair of conductors rather than three 120 degree out of phase lines. So while technically the cable itself can be the same the carrying capacity of a triple of conductors would be reduced and one of the conductors would be idle, so if this is an in-ground or overhead cable not specifically made for DC that is a lot of wasted carrying capacity.