The US have been fooled by Israel for the past... thirty, forty years at least? Look who Trump is sending around the world to negotiate on behalf of the US: two committed Zionists, personal friends of Netanyahu and past financers of the Israeli army. The other negotiators regard them as Israeli assets, plain and simple. While they pretend to "negotiate", Israel launches surprise attacks that have not been agreed with the US and that forces them to intervene.

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libertine 3 days ago | parent [-]

Either Russian propaganda is leaking into US, or people are being so easy to manipulate it's becoming scary.

What's the deal the US not having agency? Lol

Russia was manipulated by NATO and they were fooled over and over again, according to the state propaganda - if that was true, why are they still stuck with the fool who keeps being fooled? Isn't that the sign of a deficient leadership?

Same applies to the Trump administration, until when will that narrative stick?

Because the "common sense", a big trope used by both states propaganda, claims that you can only be fooled once lol

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fakedang 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The US has an eternal fool on the throne. Common sense also claims that you can only declare bankruptcy once, and never with a casino, yet here we are.

It is also very clear that both the US and Israel have very different mission objectives, which is why there's no way out for this admin. A long war may destroy Iran but will also help them in the long run - a war that they're eager to fight. Furthermore it has been established that Trump was goaded into this war by his benefactors, as well as Netanyahu and Mohammed bin Salman.

What Israel and US (and MBS) don't understand is that they've just enabled a country 3 times the size of France to go militant, in their backyard.

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warmonger 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

So funny that you moved the discussion from Israel to Russia. But after checking your comments I see that Russia lives rent-free in your mind.

> Either Russian propaganda is leaking into US, or people are being so easy to manipulate it's becoming scary.

Manipulation, double standards and bias are very difficult to avoid and an average human with a job just have no time to verify everything, so they just consume and the more they consume the more they believe in it.

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libertine 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Coming from a 4 day old account with comments defending the capitulation of Ukraine.

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warmonger 2 days ago | parent [-]

> defending the capitulation of Ukraine

Could you elaborate on that? I never said anything negative about Ukraine. Your manipulation is not working.

	▲	libertine 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		No, I won't elaborate. Stick to the topic instead of trying to deflect. What did I say from my comment that was wrong regarding the propaganda trope?

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cindyllm 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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