| ▲ | irishcoffee 6 hours ago |
| They don't. The "simplicity" of using a "high-level" framework for someone who bit-shifts for a living is almost comical. |
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| ▲ | phist_mcgee 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Sure mate. And the guy who can do binary sums in his head would think of assembly as mere childsplay. Jog on. |
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| ▲ | whateveracct 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| bit shifting isn't impressive lol |
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| ▲ | nurettin 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I met someone who bit shifts for life, uses opengl shaders for compute, but has no sql experience and is afraid of opening a tcp socket. |
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| ▲ | anthk 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Trivial under plan9/9front. Under Win32/POSIX, run way. On bit shifts, pick any Forth programmer and shaders will be almost like a toy for them. They are used to implement double numbers (and maybe floats) themselves by hand by just reusing the only integer numbers they have and writting custom commands to output these pairs of integer as double numbers. They can probably implement multithreading processing by hand in Forth and also know the IEEE standards for floats better than C programmers over 20 years. |
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| ▲ | chistev 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Really? |
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| ▲ | bombcar 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I know literal kernel developers who can handle drivers and race conditions any day of the week who can't wrap their mind around Outlook, let alone GUI updates. | | |
| ▲ | anthk 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Myself. Forth it's easy, 9front C it's manageable but POSIX it's hell and managing both Unix descendants are a piece of cake. GUI interfaces for the enterprise came from Dante's hell themselves. I hate them, they are like the Madhouse from that Asterix movie making satire of the European bureucracy of the day. The often are oddly designed and they are not documented at all, you must guess the meaning by chance of with a senior tutoring you. The same with anything corporate from Microsoft with AD roles/group policies and the like. Or anything coming from IBM. | | |
| ▲ | timacles an hour ago | parent [-] | | lol you guys are being too nice. Building CRUD apps is just implementing business logic by gluing APIs together, there is nothing to understand except the business domain, which is only done through exposure, because business logic is random. And then the APIs which are all essentially a kludge because of the shifting business logic. Understanding low level code puts you on entirely different level because you can reason about a problem using logic and how systems operate. No disrespect to any crud devs here but from my personal experience they just know a particular implementation of their domain and rarely even consider how the code base even operates as a whole |
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| ▲ | kitsune1 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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