| ▲ | p_ing 3 hours ago |
| This ignores that Apple is unable to manufacture enough computers per year to be disruptive. 25m Macs in calendar year 2025. Lenovo manufactured 19m PCs in Q4 2025. Apple simply lacks volume. |
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| ▲ | tengbretson 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I imagine the company that currently ships 250m iPhones a year can figure that part out. |
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| ▲ | FinnKuhn 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Especially due to Apple having a lot less SKUs (compared to Lenovo) and having a lot more control over important parts such as CPUs. |
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| ▲ | dijit 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Weird, never had an issue getting my hands on an Apple laptop of any desired configuration, even odd keyboard layouts for the region (UK and Sweden). Had plenty of issues getting specific specification Thinkpads: because they are largely sold through resellers and they don’t stock all SKUs I suppose. |
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| ▲ | p_ing 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | No where did I say you can’t get a hold of one, I said they don’t have the volume. They’re behind Lenovo, HP, and Dell. The x86 market is massive and dwarfs Apple’s Mac manufacturing. | | |
| ▲ | dijit 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don’t buy this reasoning until there is evidence of orders going unfulfilled. I could make 20M units of something and leave my resellers as bagholders who then have to sell years old hardware at a discount- and by the internal consistency of your logic: I would have the volumes. | |
| ▲ | mlsu 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Isn't this an artifact of the demand side and not the supply side? Yes, apple shipped fewer laptops than dell in 2025. That's because Apple laptops started at $1100 in 2025. They won't have a problem securing the chips for Mac Neo's, they're the same SOC as the iPhone. What, Apple is going to have an issue manufacturing a few million motherboards? |
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| ▲ | odiroot 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| So Lenovo wins in both quantity and quality (at least for T/X series), let alone configurability. |
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| ▲ | doctorpangloss 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| okay dude, how many phones did it manufacture in Q4 2025? 87m https://www.semiconductor-today.com/news_items/2026/mar/tern... do you think lenovo would rather manufacture 19m PCs or 87m phones? i don't know, you raise an interesting point that is wrong. |
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| ▲ | p_ing 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It looks like you have this discussion confused. This is about Macs, not phones. | | |
| ▲ | F7F7F7 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Sure, Apple's dominance in sourcing, manufacturing and all other aspects of logistics surely has no place in this conversation. ' The NEO is a masterclass in how integrated these systems actually are. |
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