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baq 2 days ago

Intel Optane rolling in its grave.

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aitchnyu 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Memristors are also missing in this AI hype even when they were around the corner 10 years back.

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liuliu 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Still have 4 brand new ones in my storage unit. Just in case these moments.

Joke aside (I do have them tho!), I don't think Optane is that much use (not to mention it is only 256GiB for my unit). It is useful legacy crutch if you have legacy software that is not designed to issue multiple reads / writes in parallel. If you do, it is really not faster than NVMe, especially these modern ones.

	▲	zozbot234 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		It's not about being faster (except for small reads where latency dominates, which is actually relevant when reading a handful of expert-layers immediately after routing), it's the wearout resistance which opens up the possibility of storing KV-cache (including the "linear" KV-cache of recent Qwen, which is not append-only as it was with the pure attention model) and maybe even per-layer activations - though this has the least use given how ephemeral these are.

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speedgoose 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it too late for Intel to bring them back to life?

	▲	c0balt 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Yes, their NAND division has been sold, it is now mostly under solidigm. Maybe solidigm could bring it back, but it seems unlikely (given the previous commercial failure).
	▲	walterbell 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Nvidia and SK Hynix are bringing HBF to market for $$.

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moffkalast 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wouldn't be Intel if they didn't quit halfway through on a good thing.

Still, couldn't one get a RAID 0 card with four drives to saturate a 16x lane? That's already the max one could push through PCIe anyhow.

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0ptan3 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

pmem