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IncreasePosts 10 hours ago

Zero when the president has the power to issue blanket pardons to his family and inner circle. Hell, he might even extend it fully to ICE. There's precedent too since the previous president pardoned his son for all crimes committed over a period of time.

ceejayoz 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Hell, he might even extend it fully to ICE. There's precedent too since the previous president pardoned his son for all crimes committed over a period of time.

I love how people pretend this established some new kind of precedent.

Y'all keep forgetting Nixon.

"Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974."

nozzlegear 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The president can't issue pardons for state convictions, so: prosecute offenders at the state level for state crimes.

IncreasePosts 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, then we'll just have a situation where texas and Florida are safe havens for these people, and the governor will refuse to extradite them to New York or whatever to face trial

MSFT_Edging 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well then they'd be forced to live the rest of their lives in the prison of Florida and Texas.

I hope they have enough direct flights to not have a layover in an unfriendly state.

nozzlegear 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But is that better or worse than the current situation where they're not prosecuted at all?

deaux 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

None of that matters. The only thing matters is whether there's enough will. There isn't.

skizm 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think the bigger precedent is that he has already blanket pardoned all J6ers.

tehwebguy 9 hours ago | parent [-]

That and the Christmas Day Proclamation