| ▲ | 0xy 5 hours ago |
| LaGuardia did have a fully staffed ATC, and there's zero evidence this controller was overworked. You seem to be prematurely ascribing cause when nothing has been investigated yet. |
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| ▲ | banannaise 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The evidence that this controller was overworked is that practically all controllers in the US at present are overworked. As such, that should be treated as the null hypothesis, and it would require substantial evidence to show that he isn't overworked. |
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| ▲ | Esophagus4 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Couldn’t we just… wait to see what FAA says before coming up with our own (entirely speculative) theories? | | |
| ▲ | hanche 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | NTSB is the relevant institution, not FAA. | |
| ▲ | afavour 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Can we trust the FAA's conclusion? Its previous head had a term that didn't expire until 2028 but he resigned after pressure from Elon Musk (who didn't like that he got fined), now a Trump-friendly head has been installed. What, realistically, would be the consequences if he lied? Likely none. Government officials lying on record is an every day occurrence these days. | | |
| ▲ | Esophagus4 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | True! Assumptions and speculation are always better. I’m glad we’ve made our conclusions up front before the report has even come out. That saves me a lot of reading! | | |
| ▲ | afavour 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Come on, this is silly. The fact that air traffic controllers are overworked is neither an assumption nor speculation. It is very widely documented. | | |
| ▲ | Esophagus4 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The only thing we know so far is from two minutes of ATC audio. That’s literally it. Anything else is speculation and extrapolation. But don’t let that stop you if you already know what caused the tragedy. | | | |
| ▲ | mmooss 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It does not at all mean that this controller was overworked when this crash happened; that would be failed reasoning and misuse of evidence.
It just raises the question, which should be looked at. It's scary that so many don't seem to know the difference. This is how misinformation starts and spreads. |
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| ▲ | pc86 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You're 100% right, a "Trump-friendly" administrator has been "installed" so we can't trust the FAA's conclusions. The last guy quit so this guy is definitely going to lie. |
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| ▲ | PUSH_AX 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'd pay to watch someone say this in a court of law... | | |
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| ▲ | consumer451 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > LaGuardia did have a fully staffed ATC According to whom? Management, or controllers? Certainly does not seem like controllers agree: https://old.reddit.com/r/ATC/ |
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| ▲ | longislandguido 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The parent post was unjustly flagged for no other reason than facts make overly emotional people here squirm with anger. Pathetic and lame. This is worthy of losing flagging privileges IMO. The Secretary of Transportation said on record at the first press conference that reports this guy was working alone in the tower are INACCURATE. The actual number is the responsibility of the NTSB to disclose. 95% of this discussion is people blowing smoke out of their ass as per usual. |
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| ▲ | wat10000 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | If a member of this administration said he wasn’t working alone, that’s solid evidence he was. The evidence that he was overworked seems pretty damned obvious. He forgot about an entire airplane and put a fire truck in its path. The evidence of overwork is strewn all around LGA. |
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