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al_borland 11 hours ago

I have fond memories of Opera. When I migrated off of it to Phoenix, I had a really hard time adjusting to not having mouse gestures. I didn’t know how anyone lived without them.

By the time extensions came around to mimic Opera’s mouse gestures on other browsers, I could never get used to actually using them again.

I was sad to see Opera become just another incarnation of Chrome.

matsemann 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Opera had this feature where it knew what the next page for stuff was, and other things. Not sure if it was a rel link or just some clever heuristics. But browsing BB forums with mouse gestures one felt like a God in how one could move around. Next post, next page, next topic without clicking anything.

vikingerik 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That was heuristics. It looked for the text "more" or "next" or "->" within an anchor tag. Sometimes it would be fooled if a forum thread or other link had a title containing one of those words.

mananaysiempre 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Heurisrics augmenting a (half-)standard[1,2,3] that, in a more idealistic time, some people cared enough to follow: <link rel="prev"> et al.

[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/...

[2] https://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values#HTML5_link...

[3] https://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relatio...

bergheim 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you use an extension like vimium, you get this by using the standard [[ and ]] vim motions for this.

Also, using the keyboard for navigation, while it sounds like a chore, is really quite excellent, and I prefer it to the mouse, as crazy as that might sound.

matsemann 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't disagree, but I haven't used a traditional mouse in years. I have a rollermouse, so it's just a bar just below the space bar, which I can reach with my thumbs without moving my hands from home row!

xtracto 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I used Opera so much around 2000. Small things like the X-Z shortcuts and the sheer speed blew me away.

olejorgenb 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Opera was by far the best browser for a while for sure. Sad they couldn't keep up :/

Bad_CRC 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Mouse gestures, download manager, pop-up blocker, TABS in windows 98.

Ages ahead of other browsers.

drooopy 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Those gestures have been permanently tattooed into my brain and muscle memory. So much so that I’ve set Gesturefy on Firefox to mimic the same ones from the old Opera browser.

tsumnia 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't have much to contribute other than HI AL from the MORNING CREW!

Terr_ 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, I had the same experience with mouse-gestures. I think a lot of the pressure was removed by the rise in consumer mice with "back" thumb-buttons.

kome 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Opera 12 was so good, so fast, on ANY hardware, so innovative, so quirky. When Opera became Chrome-based, I moved to Firefox. I just don’t want Google spyware on my computer.

UberFly 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's based on Chromium, not Chrome.

AlienRobot 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Opera is called Vivaldi now.

spikewall 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Which is a chrome reskin too.

Tomis02 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Reskin isn't quite right. Vivaldi offers a ton of amazing features that Chrome would never dream of having. For example, tab tiling is excellent and criminally underused.

rplnt 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a cool idea, but major bugs are being introduced and then ignored. Virtually unusable and I would not recommend it.

UberFly 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not my experience with Vivaldi even remotely.

Tomis02 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I literally can't function on the web without Vivaldi, for me it's the only usable desktop browser. What problems have you encountered?

rplnt an hour ago | parent [-]

Switching tabs doesn't work like you would expect in Opera for example. The order of tabs gets shuffled randomly. It's completely broken. I downgraded to a version where it had worked, stuck with that for a while. When I complained about it people usually say "just use it like chrome where you can't switch tabs properly anyway lol". It was reported with the precise version that broke it. Vivaldi team asked maybe twice on social media, but then it was just tumbleweeds. It's 100% reproducible with a clean install, on both windows and osx. I gave up and preach for people to just stay away from that browser.

AlienRobot an hour ago | parent [-]

Is this what you're talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1XoTNV1qFY